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Old Jul 27, 2022 | 09:18 AM
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Modernize the engine or keep it original

Hello all,

In a discussion about an air filter I saw different opinions.

I have a 1985 F Ford 250 with a 460 engine.

My truck was still in California last year and I think it is still completely original.

I would like to know what FTE members: advise….
Modernize as much as possible or keep it original?


Modern:
carburetor, air filter, ignition and so on.


Now and then I drive on dirt roads but I also just like to tour with it.

The most important thing for me is that my Ford always works and continues to do.

I'm curious about your reactions.

Sincerely,

Johan

From The Netherlands
 
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Old Jul 27, 2022 | 01:28 PM
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So, are you telling us you purchased your truck from someone in CA, and you have it now with you in The Netherlands ?

I think the carb is the only update I would do when yours has issues. The Summit Racing carb has been shown to be one of the better aftermarket updates.

I like to keep things simple.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2022 | 02:09 PM
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If it runs good keep it original. Once you start having problems with it, you will find it easier to replace the carb and take off a bunch of the vacuum lines and other stuff. But I would not do that until you have problems you can't figure out.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2022 | 05:01 AM
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Last year I bought my 1985 F-Ford from an importer in the Netherlands.



This truck came from Bakersfield California and is now located in Ravenswoud.




Because this Truck is already 37 years old, I pay little tax, namely € 120 per year.If this was a new car I would pay $120 every month!First of all, I gave the Truck a rust-resistant treatment, replaced the door seals, painted the roof and hood.



Then the interior and of course the audio adjusted.




Now it is the turn of the engine where necessary. I repaired the rubbers of the steering axle yesterday.



I am happy with your advice.I will try not to be fooled with all kinds of improvements that can be seen on YouTube.In the end it's all about having fun





Thanks againJohan


 
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Old Jul 29, 2022 | 10:10 AM
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I'm kind of amazed you can fit in a parking space or on the roads over there with a full sized truck. Looks good.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2022 | 01:51 PM
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You have to be a bit crazy to drive such a truck here in Holland.
I'm going to take it one step further....

 
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Old Jul 29, 2022 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Capacity
So, are you telling us you purchased your truck from someone in CA, and you have it now with you in The Netherlands?...
The Summit Racing carb has been shown to be one of the better aftermarket updates.
I sold a car to a man in Germany a few yrs ago... can't imagine how much that costs.

The Summit carbs are great, I've used them several times on different vehicles. Easy install, little-to-no adjustment needed, and work like they should. They add a bit of shine under the hood too... at least for a little while.

I wouldn't/don't hesitate to update my old vehicles. Carbs, intakes, HEI ignition, upholstery materials, electronics, stuff like that. For me, the line is drawn at wheel design/size, exterior lighting, gauge/tach design, radio, and exterior geegaws like mirrors, grill, and sometimes paint color... l just dig the vintage vibe, especially with a truck.
Not knowing the market in the Netherlands, l don't know whether or not you'd hurt any value by updating it... I can't afford the kinds of vehicles that lose value with modifications. In the US our trucks don't have much value above being a cool and interesting way to get some work done... it'll be a looong time before we see one at Pebble Beach... unless it belongs to the landscaper.

That's a good looking truck you got there, looking forward to seeing what you do with it.


Your canopy, shell, topper, whatever you call it, Johan, the aluminum thing on your bed is a PERFECT example of what l meant by exterior "vintage vibe". That thing, nice as it is, is exactly what you would have seen on that truck in 1985. A fancier, streamlined fiberglass unit would have just looked... odd

 
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Old Jul 30, 2022 | 08:24 AM
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[QUOTE=Jonnyuma;20496850]Ik heb een paar jaar geleden een auto verkocht aan een man in Duitsland... ik kan me niet voorstellen hoeveel dat kost.

De Summit-koolhydraten zijn geweldig, ik heb ze verschillende keren op verschillende voertuigen gebruikt. Eenvoudige installatie, weinig tot geen aanpassing nodig en werken zoals het hoort. Ze voegen ook een beetje glans toe onder de motorkap... tenminste voor een tijdje.

Ik zou niet aarzelen om mijn oude voertuigen te updaten. Koolhydraten, inlaten, HEI-ontsteking, bekledingsmaterialen, elektronica, dat soort dingen. Voor mij wordt de grens getrokken op wielontwerp/-maat, buitenverlichting, meter/tach-ontwerp, radio en exterieurgeegaws zoals spiegels, grill en soms verfkleur... Ik ben gewoon dol op de vintage sfeer, vooral met een vrachtwagen.
Omdat ik de markt in Nederland niet ken, weet ik niet of je waarde zou schaden door het te updaten... Ik kan het soort voertuigen niet betalen die waarde verliezen door aanpassingen. In de VS hebben onze vrachtwagens niet veel waarde boven een coole en interessante manier om wat werk gedaan te krijgen... het zal lang duren voordat we er een zien op Pebble Beach... tenzij het van de tuinarchitect is.

Dat is een mooie truck die je daar hebt staan, ben benieuwd wat je ermee gaat doen.


Je baldakijn, schaal, topper, hoe je het ook noemt, Johan, het aluminium ding op je bed is een PERFECT voorbeeld van wat ik bedoelde met "vintage vibe" aan de buitenkant. Dat ding, hoe mooi het ook is, is precies wat je in 1985 op die vrachtwagen zou hebben gezien. Een mooiere, gestroomlijnde glasvezeleenheid zou er net uitzien...
:-drankje
Ik ben van plan om deze truck zo lang zelf te houden als mogelijk.
Misschien nog wat noodzakelijke verbeteringen. de motor loopt op zich redelijk goed.
Van de dubbele benzinetank werkt alleen de hoofdtank.
Dus voorlopig klussen genoeg ​​​​​​​
 
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Old Jul 30, 2022 | 08:29 AM
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I plan to keep this truck myself for as long as possible.
Maybe some necessary improvements. the engine itself runs quite well.
Of the double fuel tank, only the main tank works.
So enough chores for now

(I don't think I'm using the answering system properly yet) Sorry

 
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Old Jul 30, 2022 | 10:39 PM
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If I were going to modify an engine I'd look into what they're doing at Banks Engineering. Gale Banks specialty is maximizing hp and fuel efficiency for gas and diesel engines. He's put out respected engineering solutions for aftermarket kits, turbos, power packs...etc.

He recently looked at a 460 in a motorhome and made some elegant changes that improved power and mileage. I hope you can find that youtube as it is pretty simple and straightforward.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2022 | 12:02 AM
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Here's that motorhome kit. Not quite what you'll need but the principles of opening up the throughput would apply. Contact banks about mods to your truck. You might have to piece stuff together or search other similar kits for your truck.

https://bankspower.com/products/powe...-tailpipe-exit
 
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Old Aug 2, 2022 | 03:10 AM
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Thank you for this information.
I will also watch on YouTube
 
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Old Aug 2, 2022 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Johannes250
Thank you for this information.
I will also watch on YouTube
Banks Engineering does have a youtube channel and I have watched many of them. But as I try to recall whether I saw the 460 power pack on a youtube or if it was a magazine article I can't be sure.

I did install the Banks Power Pack on my 6.9l diesel and it did improve hp and mileage. Same principle was involved by removing choke points in throughput of air/fuel and out through the exhaust. Simple things that should have been done on the stock versions IMHO.

If you find a youtube for the 460 power pack please post it!
 
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Old Aug 3, 2022 | 03:47 AM
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Hey guys,
I found this video on YouTube
Not specifically Banks Power Pack but fun to watch
 
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Old Aug 3, 2022 | 10:32 AM
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Sometimes it's fun to be a dinosaur.
Just for fun I posted a Youtube video
Where an old 460 was transformed into a speed demon 600 hp or more!!!
This afternoon I got an ad from Tesla who made a new car with over 1000 horsepower
Well that's progress, but I like cars that you can still tinker with the most!!!
In the Netherlands there is a video of (typical Dutch humor)
Tesla
https://www.autoweek.nl/autotests/ar...-x-p100d-2017/
 
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