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Old Jun 30, 2022 | 10:48 AM
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Question Non FOB Key Question

No fancy key FOB for me on my (new to me) 2017 XL… But I’m wondering if anyone knows why the basic key is oriented like this? The key body doesn’t align with the key head. I’m sure I’ll get use to it, but it still feels counter intuitive.




 
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Old Jun 30, 2022 | 11:35 AM
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You mean the fact that the head is 90 degrees to the shaft?
Because the slot it goes in on the column is angled like that.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2022 | 12:22 PM
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You mean the fact that the head is 90 degrees to the shaft?
Because the slot it goes in on the column is angled like that.
Yes- it especially feels odd when unlocking the doors.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2022 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by EGMF
Yes- it especially feels odd when unlocking the doors.
Guess you could trade it for a RAM or chebbie...
 
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Old Jun 30, 2022 | 02:24 PM
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I have one of those keys, but I couldn't program it in my truck with my 2 OEM key fobs. I might take it somewhere and see if they can program it for me. I HATE the stupid-large key fob.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2022 | 09:44 PM
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It’s been kind of funny- getting use to a traditional key again. Manual door locks and no push button start. It’s like the 80’s all over again.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2022 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by EGMF
It’s been kind of funny- getting use to a traditional key again. Manual door locks and no push button start. It’s like the 80’s all over again.
A 6 speed manual and a cassette player are all you need to live the dream.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2022 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by EGMF
It’s been kind of funny- getting use to a traditional key again. Manual door locks and no push button start. It’s like the 80’s all over again.
80's? My car in the late 90's to 2000's still did not have power locks or windows! 94 Ford Probe GT (only options it had were ABS, cassette and rear window defroster)
 
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Old Jul 1, 2022 | 08:21 PM
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Is that key "chipped"? As in, does your truck have passive antitheft? I can't remember what Ford calls their system. If it does, that would be cool if one could program the non-fob key to a slightly higher trimmed truck.

I'm with ATC crazy, I very much dislike the size of the key fobs on newer vehicles. There is no reason for such a large plastic enclosure. I'm not a fan of large or many keys in my pockets.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2022 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by EGMF
It’s been kind of funny- getting use to a traditional key again. Manual door locks and no push button start. It’s like the 80’s all over again.
Originally Posted by redford
A 6 speed manual and a cassette player are all you need to live the dream.
My 2008 Chevy Cobalt that I came from was pretty plain... push down locks, roll down windows (should have seen the kids try to figure that one out!), 5 speed and no cruise control... and it used a chipped key! Must not have been a fancy chip though... I went to the Chevy dealership and they cut me a new key for about $30. Then I had to crank my car with the original key, shut it down, then immediately crank it with the new key... then it was "programmed"... either that, or they were all watching me through the window "program my new key!" LOL...
 
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Old Jul 1, 2022 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by flanneljunkie
Is that key "chipped"? As in, does your truck have passive antitheft? I can't remember what Ford calls their system. If it does, that would be cool if one could program the non-fob key to a slightly higher trimmed truck.

I'm with ATC crazy, I very much dislike the size of the key fobs on newer vehicles. There is no reason for such a large plastic enclosure. I'm not a fan of large or many keys in my pockets.
I can’t tell by looking at it- but if anyone knows how the check, I’m happy to try and report back.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2022 | 11:12 PM
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I can’t tell by looking at it- but if anyone knows how the check, I’m happy to try and report back.
Believe it’s called PATS. If you make a copy of that key to a plain shank, I suspect it will turn the lock cylinder but a lock icon or some other message will appear in the dash.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2022 | 07:46 AM
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It is a transponder key
 
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Old Nov 8, 2022 | 09:04 PM
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Just got two of them for $19 ea 5923293 Strattec OEM 164-R8128 Ford Transponder key (carandtruckremotes.com)
They also had an aftermarket for $12 which I would have done vs the $34 on amazon.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2022 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by st8yd
Just got two of them for $19 ea 5923293 Strattec OEM 164-R8128 Ford Transponder key (carandtruckremotes.com)
They also had an aftermarket for $12 which I would have done vs the $34 on amazon.
I’ve heard of guys having issues finding a place that will cut keys they don’t sell themselves. Please give an update with how it goes and cost. Good luck!
 
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