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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 04:49 PM
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I know its been posted hundreds of times, but can it be answered once more?
I did a search and i know ive seen many posts on "power losses" but they must have been outdated because they wouldnt show up.

Why does my 1993 IDI 7.3L Turbo Diesel feel so weak, especially when pulling? Im comparing it to a 2001 Powerstroke. I need more power!
 
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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 11:07 PM
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I got a few question about it, is it crewcab,super cab, reg cab.

what type tranni in it auto or manual..what size gear ratio do you have in it before you put 35'' on it,
 
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 10:28 AM
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Kinda apples and oranges don't you think?
 
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 09:42 PM
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yes is like apple & orange,,you better back that down to a simple term for me,,rember I went to snohomish high,, bacin the good old days..
 
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 11:17 PM
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Me too, just not sure when the good ol days were.

I just thought it was funny to compare a turbo'd 7.3 to a power stroke (especially a 2001).

Is that a factory turbo or an aftermarket?
 
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 02:35 AM
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Me too, just not sure when the good ol days were.

I just thought it was funny to compare a turbo'd 7.3 to a power stroke (especially a 2001).

Is that a factory turbo or an aftermarket?
what I mean by the good old days,, when you get my age,, they just a term,,{old timers} use.

I might need A education from you about this subject,,what is big differ from the factory & aftermarket,, compare to the 01 powerstroke..

the only things I can think of is newer one powerstroke has bigger and difffer size injectors,, piston ,, stoke& bore engine,,
down pipe,,auto tranni chips,,any thing else that I might miss.

I know this next question is out of place= I need to know anyway

did chev or Gmc trucks have diesel up to the 2000 yr model,I read some place they did.

at that c word. thanks James
 
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 11:15 PM
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A factory turbo'd truck is a waste of time unless you change everthing back to the ATS parts and loose all the Ford junk. Ford didn't care if the truck had any *****, they just wanted to be able to use those "Turbo Diesel" stickers they had sitting on the shelf.

Back to the comparison, uh... there is no comparison! A Stroke will always wax an Indirect 7.3. The ultra high pressure injection, computer controls, not to mention the extra years of development. The early motors with mechanical pumps and injectors don't stand a chance. Not that I'm running out to buy one! I love my old 6.9, but someday........
 
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Old Nov 15, 2003 | 03:36 PM
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Yeah i know a powerstroke will always be more powerful, thanks for telling me something i knew. Still didnt say how to mmake it more powerful. Its a 5 speed manual, longbed 4 door (i dont see how the length shanges anything, but you had to know). Ah, well. Ive pretty much come to the sonclusion that IDI's blow. Can i change my 93 IDI out for a 1994-1997 powerstroke?

Edit:its a factory turbo
 

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Old Nov 15, 2003 | 03:50 PM
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Ah, well. Ive pretty much come to the sonclusion that IDI's blow. Can i change my 93 IDI out for a 1994-1997 powerstroke?
good question ... I'd like to know the same thing .... because my motor is a dog .. and its a non turbo ...
 
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Old Nov 15, 2003 | 06:41 PM
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Don't tell me IDI's "blow"

What is under powered to you? How fast do you want to go with a trailer on your back or a huge load in the back of your truck? Do you wanna race your diesel or something? Go ahead and say all IDI's blow, and I'll come back and tell you these new 6.0 powerstrokes do the same thing, cause they blow up after 3,000 miles. Sure you make 560 foot pounds, but whats the use of all that if its always in the shop getting re flashed or whatever it is. I've seen plenty of IDIs, and own one that gets the job done FLAWLESSLY! A dump truck with no turbo, IDI, getting up on the parkway hitting 75 miles per hour with no problem, pulling loads with no problem. Raw power no offense, but when the guys on this site ask you for information about your truck, dont' second guess it, they know what their talking about. I've been readin this site for two years now and gained a wealth of knowledge from these types of questions. Did you just think that the reason they want to know the length of your truck is because the longer it is, the heavier it is, and the harder the motor is going to have to work push it, AND the load your pulling. Don't give these guys attitude on here for trying to help you, and if you don't like what I have to say, go buy a duramax.


Sorry for the rant and preaching to the choir, it's been a long day, a longer week, and a real long month. Keep on truckin guys
 
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Old Nov 15, 2003 | 07:10 PM
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CHACH, trust me man, once you get a turbo on your truck, it will pull. I am not sure what is up with RawPowers truck, but I just pulled my Jeep about 60miles this morning and with the trailer it is about 7000LBS, that is a pretty fair load. Now remember I am on 37's with 3.55's. My truck pulled up hill with the cruise control set at 60MPH and I had no problems. Now with that said, the reason I was pulling the Jeep this morning was to get gears and lockers put in the Jeep and 4.56's put into the truck. It runs good but you need the right gear ratio to pull loads. The turbo helps a TON but if you are undergeared with a heavy truck you are fighting a losing battle. Don't fret, if your truck runs good now, it will run like a scared dog with a turbo on it.. Now with that, they are not PSD's but they will keep up, matter of fact I passed a few this morning pulling the same load and trailer combo IE Jeeps, and they just looked and laughed because my truck moves pretty good for it size and age. I am sure they could have smoked me with chips and all that but the fact is you will have enough power to do what you need to if your truck is set up correctly.. Scotty
 
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Old Nov 15, 2003 | 07:40 PM
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Aight I wish Xmas wasn't around the corner because I dont think I will be able to afford the turbo till after xmas sometime .... owell no biggie ..

keep trucking !!!
 
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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 12:18 PM
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Well Raw Power, I guess you missed the part about upgrading to ATS parts and loosing the ford parts. Let me break it down for you. You need a completely new 3 inch min. exhaust with a "see through" muffler, a new ATS turbo exhaust housing to get you up to 3 inches at the turbo, and you can even change the exhaust snail to get the power to come in sooner. Then just crank your wastegate up to around 8 psi and turn the pump up a little more and you might just scare yourself. Those 35s are your main slow down at the moment. You need lower gears.

Hows that?
 
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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 12:54 PM
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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 05:13 PM
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Don't worry brother, it is really worth the wait and money, especially if you have no desire to have a huge truck payment and want great power. I can't wait to pull my Jeep with 4.56's in my truck, I think it is going to be a real animal in the hills now.. I am like a kid a Christmas waiting. After I get it back from the diff shop it is going to the paintbooth to get rid of all that body molding and get sprayed black all over.. I even picked up a toolbox out of a repo yard. It was pretty cheap and it is brand new. Scotty
 
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