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Old Jun 9, 2022 | 08:58 AM
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I had a great digital service manual for my 2017 with hyperlinks and I am wanting to get a similar one for my 2022. Anyone have any suggestions on this?
 
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Old Jun 9, 2022 | 09:04 AM
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Where did your last one come from?
 
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Old Jun 9, 2022 | 09:13 AM
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Where did your last one come from?
Ebay, pretty sure it was pirated. I remember a few others bought similar ones but the hyperlinks didn't work.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2022 | 09:59 AM
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Ebay, pretty sure it was pirated. I remember a few others bought similar ones but the hyperlinks didn't work.
I picked up a 2020 manual off of ebay for my 2022. It had the information, but the hyperlinks didn't work. This was just a placeholder until helminc.com came out with the 2022 service manual - which are now available at a slightly higher cost . I received mine last week and the info I was referencing seems to match, but is a lot easier to find.

 
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Old Jun 9, 2022 | 10:24 AM
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Helm Inc sells the "official" service DVD. Owner Manuals, Service Manuals, Wiring Diagrams, Service Bulletins - Helm Incorporated Service manual and all wiring diagrams are included. What's missing is the parts lists. Haven't been able to find that anywhere other than a $2K/yr subscription.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2022 | 11:36 AM
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Thanks for that link. $205 is cheaper than one trip to the dealer. I'll probably get one ordered 👍🏻
 
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Old Jun 10, 2022 | 12:09 AM
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It comes on a CD-ROM? Wow, I haven’t owned a computer with a cd drive for almost 10 years. What’s wrong with a pdf?
 
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Old Jun 10, 2022 | 01:35 AM
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It comes on a CD-ROM? Wow, I haven’t owned a computer with a cd drive for almost 10 years. What’s wrong with a pdf?
I know, that seems old school. Fortunately I still have a couple of computers that still have DVD drives, but at least you would think they would deliver it on a thumb drive instead.
 
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It comes on a CD-ROM? Wow, I haven’t owned a computer with a cd drive for almost 10 years. What’s wrong with a pdf?
I'll take a shot in the dark here and assume it is a PDF. And the reason for a CD-Rom is security. Some organizations may have thumb drives blocked for use on computers. For example most hospitals now do not allow thumb drives to be used because they can introduce viruses, malware, etc. I know this first hand and it's been a long time since I have seen a service manual for medical equipment come on a thumb drive.
 
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Originally Posted by cpobst
I'll take a shot in the dark here and assume it is a PDF. And the reason for a CD-Rom is security. Some organizations may have thumb drives blocked for use on computers. For example most hospitals now do not allow thumb drives to be used because they can introduce viruses, malware, etc. I know this first hand and it's been a long time since I have seen a service manual for medical equipment come on a thumb drive.
I had difficulties installing on a laptop without a drive. Tried copying to USB using another computer. Even mapping it's cd over the network. Still wouldn't work. Finally used a usb connected cd drive to install. Figure this is how they prevent making copies.

 
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I'll take a shot in the dark here and assume it is a PDF.
Nope. Not for the 2021 at least. It's 1990s technology with a mixture of PDF, ASP pages, HTML pages and SVG diagrams. You actually have to install outdated Adobe SVG viewer software to get the wiring diagrams to work. It's the same TSO software Ford service lanes use without the timelock.

Usually you can buy expired Ford TSO cds on eBay. Utility called RunNow can be found on the internet to take care of the time check and the CD runs fine. I just wanted one that I didn't have to jump through hoops for so I bought the Helm one. Probably won't the next time as they are relying on being the only source for factory manuals to sell crap that they haven't updated in 20 years.
 
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I wonder how this one would be or if it is any different?

https://www.factoryrepairmanuals.com...l-shop-repair/
 
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