Well That Sorta Sucks...
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Well That Sorta Sucks...
I configured my 2022 F-150 Platinum Hybrid exactly the way I wanted; which included the onboard scales and a color-matching Leer 100R bedcap.
The door jam says the truck can carry no more than 1330 total lbs of passenger and payload weight. If the four of us are passengers, let's call it 900 lbs (I've got a couple football player sons), if I add the weight of my Leer 100R bedcap, let's say 200 lbs; that leaves me just 230 lbs of payload. I couldn't even tow a trailer with a 600 lb tongue weight. Really??
I ordered the 7.2kW onboard generator to do some family RV'ing and I was planning on carrying some cargo in the bed (ie: tools, floor jack, supplies).
Shame on me for not investigating this before placing my order. I guess I should've got a Super Duty and carried my portable Yamaha generator with me. : (
Oh well, maybe I oughta put in my order now for a Super Duty.
The door jam says the truck can carry no more than 1330 total lbs of passenger and payload weight. If the four of us are passengers, let's call it 900 lbs (I've got a couple football player sons), if I add the weight of my Leer 100R bedcap, let's say 200 lbs; that leaves me just 230 lbs of payload. I couldn't even tow a trailer with a 600 lb tongue weight. Really??
I ordered the 7.2kW onboard generator to do some family RV'ing and I was planning on carrying some cargo in the bed (ie: tools, floor jack, supplies).
Shame on me for not investigating this before placing my order. I guess I should've got a Super Duty and carried my portable Yamaha generator with me. : (
Oh well, maybe I oughta put in my order now for a Super Duty.
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Sounds about right and totally normal. Unfortunate reality. Now that's not to say that lots of people aren't out there exceeding the payload rating of their truck, I think lots of people do it and are happy with their experiences.
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I configured my 2022 F-150 Platinum Hybrid exactly the way I wanted; which included the onboard scales and a color-matching Leer 100R bedcap.
The door jam says the truck can carry no more than 1330 total lbs of passenger and payload weight. If the four of us are passengers, let's call it 900 lbs (I've got a couple football player sons), if I add the weight of my Leer 100R bedcap, let's say 200 lbs; that leaves me just 230 lbs of payload. I couldn't even tow a trailer with a 600 lb tongue weight. Really??
I ordered the 7.2kW onboard generator to do some family RV'ing and I was planning on carrying some cargo in the bed (ie: tools, floor jack, supplies).
Shame on me for not investigating this before placing my order. I guess I should've got a Super Duty and carried my portable Yamaha generator with me. : (
Oh well, maybe I oughta put in my order now for a Super Duty.
The door jam says the truck can carry no more than 1330 total lbs of passenger and payload weight. If the four of us are passengers, let's call it 900 lbs (I've got a couple football player sons), if I add the weight of my Leer 100R bedcap, let's say 200 lbs; that leaves me just 230 lbs of payload. I couldn't even tow a trailer with a 600 lb tongue weight. Really??
I ordered the 7.2kW onboard generator to do some family RV'ing and I was planning on carrying some cargo in the bed (ie: tools, floor jack, supplies).
Shame on me for not investigating this before placing my order. I guess I should've got a Super Duty and carried my portable Yamaha generator with me. : (
Oh well, maybe I oughta put in my order now for a Super Duty.
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This is a huge reason I ordered a super duty back in November... It should have ~4k lbs of payload...if I ever get it that is LOL.
My interim F150 powerboost... 1400lbs payload.
And 2022 SD ordering is closed and 23 ordering hasnt opened yet(probably not until Sept or Oct).
My interim F150 powerboost... 1400lbs payload.
And 2022 SD ordering is closed and 23 ordering hasnt opened yet(probably not until Sept or Oct).
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Super Duty's don't offer onboard generators, which was a huge reason for me to go with the 150.
The last thing I want to do is spend any more money on this truck. It was already more than I ever wanted (or dreamt) I'd spend on a new pickup. But I wonder if changing the tires to E class could help increase payload? Or do I need to upgrade springs/coils to achieve any meaningful increase?
The last thing I want to do is spend any more money on this truck. It was already more than I ever wanted (or dreamt) I'd spend on a new pickup. But I wonder if changing the tires to E class could help increase payload? Or do I need to upgrade springs/coils to achieve any meaningful increase?
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I know a lot of people do it and are clueless about "payload". They see Ford's towing advertisement for an F-150 and 13000 lbs towing capacity and then go buy a trailer that is less than 13,000 lbs. I've seen some really big travel trailers being towed by F-150's and I just shake my head in disbelief. I figure I sold my 150 lb generator to be replaced by my PowerBoost generator so I am pretty close to a break even if the PowerBoost depletes payload by 200 lbs. as I've been told (PB system adds 500 lbs to the rig but Ford gives you an additional 300 lbs of max combined vehicle weight; from 7050 to 7350).
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Super Duty's don't offer onboard generators, which was a huge reason for me to go with the 150.
The last thing I want to do is spend any more money on this truck. It was already more than I ever wanted (or dreamt) I'd spend on a new pickup. But I wonder if changing the tires to E class could help increase payload? Or do I need to upgrade springs/coils to achieve any meaningful increase?
The last thing I want to do is spend any more money on this truck. It was already more than I ever wanted (or dreamt) I'd spend on a new pickup. But I wonder if changing the tires to E class could help increase payload? Or do I need to upgrade springs/coils to achieve any meaningful increase?
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I was dreaming about borrowing an Airstream Classic -- has a tongue weight of something around 900 lbs IIRC. That'll exceed payload limits without putting anything in the bed.
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I’d pull that all day long. With that kind of tongue weight, you’ll need a weight distributing hitch. You’d be safely under the tongue weight rating of the hitch receiver, and wouldn’t likely overload the rear axle as long as you set it right. As long as the trailer brakes are in good order, you shouldn’t have a problem.
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If it is like most trailers it will be over what they claim. That doesn't include hitch weight either. Changing to E rated tires will certainly eliminate one weak link but the problem is you have no idea where the other weak links are. Suspension will be soft and there are ways to stiffen it but then you don't know if the axle can handle that load or the frame. Axle is probably ok if you don't do it too often. Frame probably the same. You will want to get it plated for over whatever you think your max weight will be in case you ever get checked.
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This is one of the major downsides to the "hybrids". The targeted audience for these seems to be urban commuters that may need to make a weekend trip for a couple 2x4's, not someone that is towing on a regular basis. You end up losing a lot of the truck capability for a couple extra MPG's around town and a generator.
Any increased gas mileage is a bowl of gravy.
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The high option packages like Platinum and King Ranch always have low payload ratings. The weight of all those options reduces available payload. As Tom said, the trucks are the same underneath and there are ways to work with what you have. What can not be changed is the payload rating on the sticker.
It seems that these days everyone wants one ton of payload out of a half ton truck. Most half tons these days have around 3/4 of a ton of available payload. If you order an F150 wisely, you can get that 1 ton of payload rating, you have to give up several options to do so though.
It seems that these days everyone wants one ton of payload out of a half ton truck. Most half tons these days have around 3/4 of a ton of available payload. If you order an F150 wisely, you can get that 1 ton of payload rating, you have to give up several options to do so though.
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The high option packages like Platinum and King Ranch always have low payload ratings. The weight of all those options reduces available payload. As Tom said, the trucks are the same underneath and there are ways to work with what you have. What can not be changed is the payload rating on the sticker.
It seems that these days everyone wants one ton of payload out of a half ton truck. Most half tons these days have around 3/4 of a ton of available payload. If you order an F150 wisely, you can get that 1 ton of payload rating, you have to give up several options to do so though.
It seems that these days everyone wants one ton of payload out of a half ton truck. Most half tons these days have around 3/4 of a ton of available payload. If you order an F150 wisely, you can get that 1 ton of payload rating, you have to give up several options to do so though.
Edit: I know all the information can be had. But only "enthusiasts" understand any of it. The dad buying an F150 to take his family camping with the 36' Bunk house trailer doesn't understand when the trailer is filled to capacity, it exceeds hitch weight....for that matter the RV is probably over it's stated weight too, when fully loaded.
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I would've gotten a Super Duty F-250 or 350 if Ford offered the 7.2kW generator onboard it. I can't figure out why they don't. Super Duty's are the "real workhorses" of the construction trade and folks that need major payload + tow capabilities.
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Edit: I know all the information can be had. But only "enthusiasts" understand any of it. The dad buying an F150 to take his family camping with the 36' Bunk house trailer doesn't understand when the trailer is filled to capacity, it exceeds hitch weight....for that matter the RV is probably over it's stated weight too, when fully loaded.
