Western Sepration?
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
From: Alberta
Western Sepration?
In Alberta here there is a lot of people here that want to seprate from the rest of Canada. Also wanting to come are Sask., and parts of B.C. We are sick and tired of the crap and all our money going to the east. I have heard that some of the western states are also in the same boat!? There seems to be little or no representation for us out east. Toronto has just as more people than all of Alberta combined, so who gets to make the decision? So heres the question should the western provinces of Canada and the western states of the US seprate and become one? Let me know your thoughts?
TMK
TMK
Posting Guru
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,263
Likes: 0
From: N. Florida - The "No 4x4
Several years ago Monroe County Florida ("The Keys") *officially* seceded from the US Union.
The *officially* declared themselves a separate and sovereign Nation.
The National Guard set up a roadblock at the head of US1 (the only road into and out of the keys). And "starved" the inhabitants into dropping the sovereignty and rejoining the fold.
Having transited this roadblock several times myself, I can state based on personal experience the ownership of any given goods was not an issue - ALL - goods (larger in volume than a couple of bags of groceries) were effectively blocked from entrance.
FWIW.
P.S. The even made their own flag, which can be seen prominently displayed in a lot of places to this day.
The *officially* declared themselves a separate and sovereign Nation.
The National Guard set up a roadblock at the head of US1 (the only road into and out of the keys). And "starved" the inhabitants into dropping the sovereignty and rejoining the fold.
Having transited this roadblock several times myself, I can state based on personal experience the ownership of any given goods was not an issue - ALL - goods (larger in volume than a couple of bags of groceries) were effectively blocked from entrance.
FWIW.
P.S. The even made their own flag, which can be seen prominently displayed in a lot of places to this day.
Elder User
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 834
Likes: 0
From: Buffalo, Minnesota
Hi tmk411,
Canada is a great nation because it is one nation. Don't let obfuscating issues get in the way. If you allow one schism to begin, there's no way to stop the cracking.
But then again, maybe that's good for us in the lower 48. I covet that land up there and would love to have you join us.
Canada is a great nation because it is one nation. Don't let obfuscating issues get in the way. If you allow one schism to begin, there's no way to stop the cracking.
But then again, maybe that's good for us in the lower 48. I covet that land up there and would love to have you join us.
Senior User
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 271
Likes: 0
From: California
Originally posted by ctfuzzy
Several years ago Monroe County Florida ("The Keys") *officially* seceded from the US Union.
Several years ago Monroe County Florida ("The Keys") *officially* seceded from the US Union.
Elder User
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 834
Likes: 0
From: Buffalo, Minnesota
tmk,
Exactly how far along is this? Any legislation? Just grumbling? I haven't heard a whit about this but lately have had only one ear on the news.
Alberta secedes and becomes sovereign. Then Calgary says, "the province is getting fat while we pay too much, we need to secede". Whereas a suburb of Calgary says....
Exactly how far along is this? Any legislation? Just grumbling? I haven't heard a whit about this but lately have had only one ear on the news.
Alberta secedes and becomes sovereign. Then Calgary says, "the province is getting fat while we pay too much, we need to secede". Whereas a suburb of Calgary says....
Trending Topics
Postmaster
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,496
Likes: 0
From: Calgary Canada
Originally posted by billsco
tmk,
Exactly how far along is this? Any legislation? Just grumbling? I haven't heard a whit about this but lately have had only one ear on the news.
Alberta secedes and becomes sovereign. Then Calgary says, "the province is getting fat while we pay too much, we need to secede". Whereas a suburb of Calgary says....
tmk,
Exactly how far along is this? Any legislation? Just grumbling? I haven't heard a whit about this but lately have had only one ear on the news.
Alberta secedes and becomes sovereign. Then Calgary says, "the province is getting fat while we pay too much, we need to secede". Whereas a suburb of Calgary says....
I posted on this topic re Quebec separating from Canada in another post. This topic gets me steaming mad. I think it's the most assinine idea to come down the pike, and I view all those who support it as traitor's to the nation.
Canada is about more than tax revenue, and just because you happen to live in a part of Canada that is blessed with a wealth of natural resources does not make you any more entitled to them than any other Canadian citizen.
I agree that our government is not properly representative of the people of the different regions of the country, that's a government problem, not a problem with the country.
This is one case where I strongly agree with motto "Love it or Leave it."
Waxy
FTE Stories
Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts
Top 6 Best Deals Available on New Fords & Lincolns Right Now
Brett Foote
This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level
Verdad Gallardo
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals
Joe Kucinski
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership
Brett Foote
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches
Pouria Savadkouei
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained
Brett Foote
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love
Joe Kucinski
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)
Michael S. Palmer
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath
Verdad Gallardo
Senior User
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 372
Likes: 0
From: Dayton, OH
I think you Canadians are forgetting one very imortant lesson when it comes to succession.
The U.S. tried the same thing in 1860 and paid for it with a death toll of over half a million dead. It also took the Southern states almost a 100 years to catch back up to the rest of the country.
Think of the cost before you decide on the act. It is easier to alter legislation than war.
The U.S. tried the same thing in 1860 and paid for it with a death toll of over half a million dead. It also took the Southern states almost a 100 years to catch back up to the rest of the country.
Think of the cost before you decide on the act. It is easier to alter legislation than war.
Last edited by Jlower; Nov 10, 2003 at 06:28 PM.
Postmaster
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,496
Likes: 0
From: Calgary Canada
I don't want anyone getting the idea that this is actually a movement with any kind of support. IT'S NOT.
War? Not a chance!
There are some hardcore people out there (like maybe a few hundred), but there's just as many who would rather rejoin the British Monarchy or cozy up to China.
People joke about it over a few beers, but it is NOT a serious idea in any way, shape, or form.
Waxy
War? Not a chance!
There are some hardcore people out there (like maybe a few hundred), but there's just as many who would rather rejoin the British Monarchy or cozy up to China.
People joke about it over a few beers, but it is NOT a serious idea in any way, shape, or form.
Waxy
Postmaster
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 2,882
Likes: 0
From: Nevada
Originally posted by sinjin
I think Caifornia should separate and take Hawaii with it. Now that would be a country.
I think Caifornia should separate and take Hawaii with it. Now that would be a country.
Posting Guru
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,540
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles safe and warm
I was thinking as a Californian and not a Hawaiian. Forgive.
Mainlanders do just fine in the "islands" as long as they've come willing to adapt to Hawaii and not wishing to adapt Hawaii to themselves.
Mainlanders do just fine in the "islands" as long as they've come willing to adapt to Hawaii and not wishing to adapt Hawaii to themselves.
