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Old May 16, 2022 | 11:15 PM
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393w HIGH PERFORMANCE TIMING HELP NEEDED

I have a 92 351w block bored 0.040 it has a 3.850 scat crank eagle I beam rods KB Hyper 22cc dish pistons 0.039 felpro head gaskets. Piston is 0.010 in the hole. Windsor sr 200cc runner heads 64cc chambers 202 160 valves scorpion 1:6 roller rockers comp xr282 hyd roller cam lunati link bar lifters 1 5/8 JBA long tubes msd big cap mech adv distributor msd 6a cd box msd blaster 2 coil air gap edlebrock intake edelbrock 650 avs2 carb with 1/2in heat spacer gasket (i know its not needed it was all I had) engine also has cvf racing 8 rib serpentine with high flow electric water pump. Has a 5 speed trans my question is : is initial timing of 17* -18* with black bushing which gives a total of 36* acceptable. The only advance springs i have are the middle weight ones and don't really start advancing until 16-2000 seem to be all in about 3200 will that work or should I have a wider faster curve
 
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MSD big cap mechanical I read
Not to badmouth MSD but my leetle Duraspark with vacuum advance allows my boss to spin to 8k no problem
I would switch to one of those for just a moment and see how it runs
IMO you need both mechanical and vacuum advance and some sort of electronic timing control
All in at 2k sounds normal and reasonable
You could play with adding more removing the bushing etc.
All would not be as streetable and run as well as a Duraspark IMO
Good luck
 
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Old May 17, 2022 | 11:27 AM
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MSD big cap mechanical I read
Not to badmouth MSD but my leetle Duraspark with vacuum advance allows my boss to spin to 8k no problem
I would switch to one of those for just a moment and see how it runs
IMO you need both mechanical and vacuum advance and some sort of electronic timing control
All in at 2k sounds normal and reasonable
You could play with adding more removing the bushing etc.
All would not be as streetable and run as well as a Duraspark IMO
Good luck
oh I totally agree MSD has went to absolute sh%# in the last few years i had a small cap msd and it kept jumping fire from close terminals i went to the big cap and it helped alot between ignition tuning and carb tuning I'm close to ripping it all out and going with this new age EFI its took me year to build it and since I've only had it running like it should for a very short time. Its impressive when its spot on has a 2.73 with ford racing locker had it doing 100 just inside 4th gear then got a oil pan leak thanks for your time
 
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Sounds like a neat setup
I should build one like it or something similar for me to play with
My 69 came to me with 2.73
If it runs like a raped ape you mighty need a crank evac system (I put 2 pcv valves in a hot 289 I built)(one in each valve cover)
That is if it is pushing the oil pan gasket out of place
 
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36 is probably more than it needs. I'd be surprised if it needed more than 33 degrees total to run its best. Most of the time on an MSD distributor I end up using the black bushing with either 2 light blue or 1 light blue with one of the weak plain springs.
 
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Well, let me pe on the parade. I would never try turning an engine to 8,000 with a duraspark. A failure at that speed could spell disaster.The Durasparks are notoriously flakey. There have been tons of post here about them. I've been running MSD stuff for years with no problems. There are some Chinese ripoffs out there to be warey of. Putting two PCV's is not a good idea, you no longer have any inlet air.

Sound like a fun engine. You might be pushing the initial timing a little depending on your altitude above sea level.

Just saying, everyone has there own opinion.
 
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Originally Posted by beartracks
Well, let me pe on the parade. I would never try turning an engine to 8,000 with a duraspark. A failure at that speed could spell disaster.The Durasparks are notoriously flakey. There have been tons of post here about them. I've been running MSD stuff for years with no problems. There are some Chinese ripoffs out there to be warey of. Putting two PCV's is not a good idea, you no longer have any inlet air.

Sound like a fun engine. You might be pushing the initial timing a little depending on your altitude above sea level.

Just saying, everyone has there own opinion.
The oil fil was the vent on my 289
I run a yellow module just because that is what I found at the junkyard
With a new stator and a working module the Durasparks have little to no trouble at high rpm
 
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