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Old Apr 28, 2022 | 02:43 PM
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Electric Dentside conversion?

I saw the thread earlier of the concept F100 Ford built, HOWEVER the Mach-E motor is available for consumer purchase from Ford. All i have to say is, and hear me out, the horn is a recording of someone whispering “hey… excuse me” or whispering “pardon me, coming through” and the license plate just says “SSHHHHH”

 
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Old Apr 28, 2022 | 09:52 PM
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I have considered piecing a 2wd F100 or F150 together into an EV. I am not one to swap a complete and running truck, but starting with say, a cab and a rolling chassis would be fine. I would want ever body panel to be a different color, so it looks like a real turd that snotty Tesla drivers start getting riled up about blocking the charging station. CV front, 9 inch with disc conversion on the same bolt pattern as the CV, nice interior, LED lighting throughout. The powerplant would probably not be the Ford unit because it looks like that is set up more like a transaxle than a longitudinal. I would still want the bed to be unmodified except for a charging port under the gas door. Instead I would look at either the EV West SBF adapter, or the one by those other guys who compete with Ford that is supposed to be stackable and bolts to a 4L60E. The batteries could take the place of the fuel tank and the muffler, plenty of real estate.

That is just my idea and I know purists would hate it, but I don't really give a damn what other people think about my vehicles. I build them for me to enjoy.


 
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Old Apr 29, 2022 | 12:09 AM
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I have considered piecing a 2wd F100 or F150 together into an EV. I am not one to swap a complete and running truck, but starting with say, a cab and a rolling chassis would be fine. I would want ever body panel to be a different color, so it looks like a real turd that snotty Tesla drivers start getting riled up about blocking the charging station. CV front, 9 inch with disc conversion on the same bolt pattern as the CV, nice interior, LED lighting throughout. The powerplant would probably not be the Ford unit because it looks like that is set up more like a transaxle than a longitudinal. I would still want the bed to be unmodified except for a charging port under the gas door. Instead I would look at either the EV West SBF adapter, or the one by those other guys who compete with Ford that is supposed to be stackable and bolts to a 4L60E. The batteries could take the place of the fuel tank and the muffler, plenty of real estate.

That is just my idea and I know purists would hate it, but I don't really give a damn what other people think about my vehicles. I build them for me to enjoy.
that’s exactly my point. i have my beat up 77 f250 without a power plant or drivetrain. i want to go diesel, but there’s also a part of me that wants to get a beat f100 for the conversion. mismatch and screw every body panel and lift it. ultimate anger machine
 
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Old Apr 29, 2022 | 08:27 AM
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I think it's still months, if not a year or more, away before this is even going to start looking like a real swap option for traditional RWD platforms, other than 1 off, high $$$ customs/protoypes. And then it's probably gonna be some time before it becomes a reasonably priced option. Batteries, charger and the control pack are gonna run you probably another $10K+, not to mention any other ancillary requirements. Right now there isn't even a dedicated control pack for it, you need to source something from the aftermarket and they're still working on the control strategies from what I understand. Supposedly AEM is going to be the control pack supplier for Ford Performance, that was announced last Aug. but nothings out on the market yet.

The Eluminator is designed to be mounted transversely with CV shafts coming out both sides, directly driving the tires. I'm fairly confident it could be mounted like a traditional rear output motor in a RWD platform with a driveshaft flange adapted to one of the CV outputs. This will also give a front CV output to run an accessory drive off of. I think the biggest hurdle will be that it'll need all new programing than what it is running in a transverse setup. IDK how the factory programing will work with the gear reduction in a transmission or rear axle. Unless you can direct drive a 1:1 rear axle ratio somehow. I'm not even sure it would be possible to put a 1:1 gear ration into a traditional rear axle, a 9" could probably be modified the easiest by having a custom pumpkin and carrier machined.

The Eluminator is 13.5" wide, 22.5" long and 14.5 tall each. You could fit 2 of them side by side, say 28" wide X 23" long by about 15" tall combined, under a dents hood and they'll take up less room than a 460 @ 32" wide,34" long,30" tall.. That'd be a combined 560HP and 630FT-LBs on tap and the 2 motors would only weigh about 410LBS, a 460 is 750ish?. In theory, there's enough room to mount 4 of these things, 2 stacked on 2, @ 28" wide, 23" long and just over 30" tall and still be smaller than a 460. That'd be something like 1000HP and 1200FT-LBS.....You'd probably need a bed full of batteries to power it though..
 
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Old Apr 29, 2022 | 09:22 AM
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If you had a bed full of batteries how many miles would you get between full charges?
 
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Old Apr 29, 2022 | 10:18 AM
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I converted a 1979 MGB to electric. Lithium batteries, AC motor with regen braking, the whole shabang. I get 100 miles between recharges and it beats the old ICE setup in speed, acceleration, etc. My next project was a 1971 Corvette that I decided not to convert because it was such a pain to find places for batteries in the MGB that I didn't want to go through that again, and it was my last hurrah at an old contraption ICE. Now that the vette is done and I am eyeballing my Highboy as the next electric conversion project. When I get the rust under control and drive the FE for a while and when I get tired of the 10 MPG I plan on converting it. It will be so much easier because all the room for batteries. Plus I am thinking of having the ability to throw a genset in the bed for range extension.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2022 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by speedfreak78
I think it's still months, if not a year or more, away before this is even going to start looking like a real swap option for traditional RWD platforms, other than 1 off, high $$$ customs/protoypes. And then it's probably gonna be some time before it becomes a reasonably priced option. Batteries, charger and the control pack are gonna run you probably another $10K+, not to mention any other ancillary requirements. Right now there isn't even a dedicated control pack for it, you need to source something from the aftermarket and they're still working on the control strategies from what I understand. Supposedly AEM is going to be the control pack supplier for Ford Performance, that was announced last Aug. but nothings out on the market yet.

The Eluminator is designed to be mounted transversely with CV shafts coming out both sides, directly driving the tires. I'm fairly confident it could be mounted like a traditional rear output motor in a RWD platform with a driveshaft flange adapted to one of the CV outputs. This will also give a front CV output to run an accessory drive off of. I think the biggest hurdle will be that it'll need all new programing than what it is running in a transverse setup. IDK how the factory programing will work with the gear reduction in a transmission or rear axle. Unless you can direct drive a 1:1 rear axle ratio somehow. I'm not even sure it would be possible to put a 1:1 gear ration into a traditional rear axle, a 9" could probably be modified the easiest by having a custom pumpkin and carrier machined.

The Eluminator is 13.5" wide, 22.5" long and 14.5 tall each. You could fit 2 of them side by side, say 28" wide X 23" long by about 15" tall combined, under a dents hood and they'll take up less room than a 460 @ 32" wide,34" long,30" tall.. That'd be a combined 560HP and 630FT-LBs on tap and the 2 motors would only weigh about 410LBS, a 460 is 750ish?. In theory, there's enough room to mount 4 of these things, 2 stacked on 2, @ 28" wide, 23" long and just over 30" tall and still be smaller than a 460. That'd be something like 1000HP and 1200FT-LBS.....You'd probably need a bed full of batteries to power it though..
i like the way you think! more motors means no powa babyyy. maybe we need a community dentside build? i’m thinking 4x eliminators on a stock looking truck? stripped interior with a cage? we would just need to find the craziest mf here to actually drive it
 
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Old Apr 29, 2022 | 12:12 PM
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CV axles on the Ford unit means internal differential like a transaxle. Would make stacking difficult if not impossible.
 
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