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Old Apr 20, 2022 | 06:57 PM
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Hey guys I’m new to the Ford truck scene, so I have a 1970 Highboy that I’m rebuilding for my 14 year old daughter and I have a few transmission questions. So when I bought the truck back last summer it came with, which is not the correct engine according to the VIN. It came with a 460 back behind 4-speed trans with and divorced Dana 24 transfer case which I would love to keep the transfer case. To make easier for my daughter to drive I would like to put a automatic transmission in place of the 4-speed. I have received a donor 360 stroked to a 390 with a C6 trans that came out of my father-in-law’s 76’ F-100 Ranger, so my question is, is there any way to use that combination with the divorced Dana 24 or what are my options. TIA
 
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Old Apr 20, 2022 | 07:27 PM
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The 460 and the 390 have different bell housings, a 400M bell housing works with a 460 block. Once you get the right tranny only the mount and the drive shaft length should change. I do believe.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2022 | 07:38 PM
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Thanks for the info but I’m not planning reusing the 460 I have sold that engine
 
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Old Apr 20, 2022 | 07:41 PM
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Easy since it probably came with a 360 originally. Just find the original 4wd 240/300/360 engine supports out to 1976. You can use a 2wd C-6, but the problem is that the TC shifter mounts to the tail shaft of the NP 435, so the auto would mount the same way. A 2wd C-6 doesn't have the mounting points for the shifter unless you build something for it, or find a 4wd C-6.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2022 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RichS2659
Easy since it probably came with a 360 originally. Just find the original 4wd 240/300/360 engine supports out to 1976. You can use a 2wd C-6, but the problem is that the TC shifter mounts to the tail shaft of the NP 435, so the auto would mount the same way. A 2wd C-6 doesn't have the mounting points for the shifter unless you build something for it, or find a 4wd C-6.
sorry my bad I failed to to put in my original post the 360 C6 did come out of 4x4
 
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Old Apr 20, 2022 | 11:09 PM
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Besides needing engine towers for the motor mounts, you will be needing another steering column. Now, I have never done any swap like this but I also thought I have read that you have to cut the rag joint off the A/T steering column and weld a u-joint on for the 4x4 steering shaft. You will also have to do something with the clutch/brake pedal assembly. Not sure if you can just remove the clutch pedal or if you need a different assembly. You might need a little drive shaft work on the intermediate shaft but since it came out of a 4x4, it might just all bolt in. The last thing I can think of is some exhaust work. Good luck on the truck and post up some pictures of it.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2022 | 01:42 AM
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A 2wd auto column uses a rag joint but a dent 4wd auto column does not. The F-100 C-6 can't used as it is equipped for a married NP 205 TC whereas the F-250 had divorced TC's until 1976. Actually need a dent 4wd F-250 divorced C-6 for the tail shaft TC shifter mount, or use a 2wd one and fab a shifter mount. Easiest would be to dump the Dana 24 and use a married 205 TC with the F-100 C-6.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2022 | 01:56 PM
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I would teach her to drive the manual trans and after a year or so you can swap in the auto.
Once she knows how to drive the manual she can drive anything and show up the boys that she can drive a stick when they cant!

My dad said each one of us kids, 4 of us, had to take our driving test in a manual. Mine was a 68 Dodge van, 3 on the tree, with a stand up camper top.
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Besides needing engine towers for the motor mounts, you will be needing another steering column. Now, I have never done any swap like this but I also thought I have read that you have to cut the rag joint off the A/T steering column and weld a u-joint on for the 4x4 steering shaft. You will also have to do something with the clutch/brake pedal assembly. Not sure if you can just remove the clutch pedal or if you need a different assembly. You might need a little drive shaft work on the intermediate shaft but since it came out of a 4x4, it might just all bolt in. The last thing I can think of is some exhaust work. Good luck on the truck and post up some pictures of it.

Thanks for the information, I have been following your build it’s coming along nicely just wished I had the weather you have. Not here in NE Arkansas lol here are a few pictures.

Day I picked her up








 
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Your rad support looks like mine. Toast with rust.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2022 | 01:30 PM
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YES SIR ALONG WITH THE FENDER APRONS
 
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Body looks good. Looks like maybe some floor pans and cab mounts for sure. Is the core support fixable? How involved of a rebuild are you planning? On my 72, I wasnt planning a full resto originally. Not sure how I ended up there. And thx, its getting there slower than I figured.
 
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Originally Posted by 1browski
How involved of a rebuild are you planning? On my 72, I wasnt planning a full resto originally. Not sure how I ended up there.
I think none of us plan on full cab off frame rebuilds it just happens at least on my 81 F100 flare side it did
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Thats what happened to me on my cab off. Any news and updates on the truck?
 
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Old Jul 1, 2022 | 11:42 AM
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Thats what happened to me on my cab off. Any news and updates on the truck?
here are a few updated pictures, plans for the weekend is to get from the cab back cleaned up and refreshed, start on the rebuild on the Dana 60




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