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Old Apr 2, 2022 | 09:03 PM
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460 Motor Plate Question

Are they the same? Auto vs 4spd.

Im guessing this one was modified by cutting off the area around the starter. I have another plate but it's from a auto...just want to confirm so I don't waste my time. TIA

This is the other one. Can't figure out why the PO trimmed it.
 
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Nope, auto plates are different from manual plates.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2022 | 09:51 PM
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Thanks for the info. Do you know what I need? A plate off a 351M/400??
 
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400, 351M, 429, and 460 all use the same mid plates. The difference between manual and automatic transmission mid plates, is where the starter is located. Manual transmission has the starter farther outboard than where the automatic transmission locates the starter.

Automatic transmission mid plate:
https://shop.broncograveyard.com/Mot...uctinfo/20702/

Manual transmission mid plate:
https://shop.broncograveyard.com/Mot...uctinfo/20700/
 
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Old Apr 3, 2022 | 12:36 AM
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This is the plate off my old 351M in my Bronco. It's being used with a 460 now. NP435 transmission.



 
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Thank you all for the info...I think I figured out why it was trimmed. Trans was swapped out for a T19 and I'm guessing they didn't know that the motor plates were different so instead of tearing it apart...they just cut it. I'm glad I asked...I didn't know they were different.
I'm going to order one from Jeff's Bronco.
Do I need a different starter?
 
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Starters don't differ. Yours will work.

Yeah, trimming the plate so the starter will clear is definitely not the answer. The plate does more than position the starter, it also supports, spaces, and aligns the starter. With that big notch cut out, the starter will be off axis once the two bolts are torqued down. At the very least, that would cause the starter to misalign with, and chew up the ring gear.
 
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Well...I got lucky as there doesn't seem to be any chewed teeth on the ring gear.
 
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Well...I got lucky as there doesn't seem to be any chewed teeth on the ring gear.
Yep, count your blessings. And pat yourself on the back for being smart enough to dig for information.
 
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