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Old Mar 26, 2022 | 06:02 AM
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USPS orders new vehicles

https://www.reuters.com/technology/u...er-2022-03-24/

Why is this relevant? Because the gas powered vehicles are powered by Ford's 2.0L ecoboost and a Ford transmission.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2022 | 07:44 AM
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that article makes no sense. it is about buying 50,000 gas powered vehicles.
then goes on to say the purchase will double the electric powered fleet from 5,000 to 10,000 vehicles.

either way, i agree the USPS need to update it's antiquated fleet. most are close to 30 years old.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2022 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by tjc transport
that article makes no sense. it is about buying 50,000 gas powered vehicles.
then goes on to say the purchase will double the electric powered fleet from 5,000 to 10,000 vehicles.

either way, i agree the USPS need to update it's antiquated fleet. most are close to 30 years old.
Most of them on the road right now are 35 y/o with a few newer ones being 28 y/o and every year in between. They phased them in over a span of 7 years (87-94) when they replaced the Jeeps. I hope they don't take that long to phase out the LLV.

Of that 50,000 purchase, 10,000 will be electric leaving 40,000 gas powered and they are built on a modular platform meaning they can easily be converted to electric at some point in time which makes sense because until they outfit every single post office station with chargers, they cannot support an entirely electric fleet.

Also take note this is just a preliminary purchase, 50,000 anything won't replace the almost 150,000 delivery trucks currently in use.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2022 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by tseekins
https://www.reuters.com/technology/u...er-2022-03-24/

Why is this relevant? Because the gas powered vehicles are powered by Ford's 2.0L ecoboost and a Ford transmission.
Curious where you read about the Ford powertrain. I'd like to take a gander at that info.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2022 | 09:42 AM
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i am well aware of the age and condition of the postal fleet, as i do a lot of work for the usps.
and there are still a few jeeps here in the smaller offices. one still runs two right drive jeeps powered by 4BT cummins with auto trans.
they both have less than 100k miles on them, and only maintenance has been fluid changes.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2022 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by tjc transport
i am well aware of the age and condition of the postal fleet, as i do a lot of work for the usps.
and there are still a few jeeps here in the smaller offices. one still runs two right drive jeeps powered by 4BT cummins with auto trans.
they both have less than 100k miles on them, and only maintenance has been fluid changes.
There are no Jeeps still in fleet service, they may be privately owned by rural route carriers, not postal owned.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2022 | 01:14 PM
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if they are privately owned they still have the USPS logo on the side with their fleet numbers on the roof.
plus they park at the office overnight.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2022 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by tjc transport
if they are privately owned they still have the USPS logo on the side with their fleet numbers on the roof.
plus they park at the office overnight.
Not surprising, some of the rural carriers I know don't have the parking space at home for an extra so they leave them at the station. Those carriers are reimbursed a % based on route and they are postal employed, their vehicles are privately owned and maintained.

They will have postal markings to some extent.
 
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here in jersey the "rural carriers" use their personal vehicles with mileage reimbursement but can not be marked as postal vehicles.
maybe they are personal owned but leased to USPS.
this is one of those questions i would have asked dad as he was a postmaster for 24 of his 34 years with USPS.
but he passed away two years ago after his kidneys shut down.
 
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The only rural route, postal owned vehicles I'm aware of currently are Mercedes Metris. They just started using them sometime in 2020. "here in jersey" means nothing, usps is federal, nationwide. There may be certain options within US territories that I'm unaware of. We had 1 rr carrier with their own LLV except it was one of the ones originally sold by Grumman to other companies and sold off individually, a few of those Jeeps as well.

The only lease on the vehicle itself is the fact that carrier needs it for his job, it's an approved tool of the trade so to speak and does enjoy it's share of individual tax deductions like any other job expense.
 
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Originally Posted by RLXXI
Curious where you read about the Ford powertrain. I'd like to take a gander at that info.
https://fordauthority.com/2022/02/fo...mail-carriers/

The contract makes provisions for "up to" 165,000 vehicles to be manufactured at a plant in South Carolina.

I'm kinda scratching my head over this one because isn't there a semiconductor shortage? So how are these trucks getting built in a block of 50,000 units when every car dealer in the country is treading water for inventory?
 
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the chip issue from what i heard is for accessory computers, not powertrain computers.
 
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Originally Posted by tseekins
https://fordauthority.com/2022/02/fo...mail-carriers/

The contract makes provisions for "up to" 165,000 vehicles to be manufactured at a plant in South Carolina.

I'm kinda scratching my head over this one because isn't there a semiconductor shortage? So how are these trucks getting built in a block of 50,000 units when every car dealer in the country is treading water for inventory?
Thanks for the link, so it appears one of two engines could be used according to that article, "It’s currently unclear which Ford 2.0L I-4 will be used in the NGDV. It could be the naturally-aspirated version used in the Ford Transit Connect and Ford EcoSport, which makes 162 and 166 horsepower in those applications, respectively. Alternatively, the NGDV could use Ford’s 2.0L EcoBoost I-4, which boasts an output of 250 horsepower."

If they're smart they'll use the naturally aspirated engine.

No idea on the chip situation other than what tj said. It sort of falls inline with how they delivered my new home stand by generator, they shipped it as functional except for the module that contained the wifi chip. That didn't stop the generator from doing it's job only that I was unable to connect it to my home network for user interface.

It came in the mail about 6 weeks later, all I had to do was remove a dummy plug in the cabinet and pop the module in.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2022 | 10:02 AM
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That is on more ugly truck. Wide and tall body with a narrow track. That thing will be a bear in crosswinds. Also, look for cases of skin cancer to soar. The driver is sitting in a solar panel. Will be almost impossible to cool with all that glass.

The skin cancer thing is a real concern. The truck I have been driving the past three years has big windshields (not near as big as those greenhouse windows), and skin problems are happening on my face and arms.

But, the PO is going to need some new trucks. Two of the new vans were totaled here over the past few months. One was totaled after the driver ran a stop sign, and ran into the side a dump truck, and another ran into a dump truck two weeks ago, totaling it. They seem to be attracted to dump trucks.

I haven't looked in a while, but one on the old Jeeps was sitting at our PO, and being used as a backup vehicle. I will look when I get up that way to see if it's still there. It has delivered mail to my house before.
 
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That is on more ugly truck. Wide and tall body with a narrow track. That thing will be a bear in crosswinds. Also, look for cases of skin cancer to soar. The driver is sitting in a solar panel. Will be almost impossible to cool with all that glass.

The skin cancer thing is a real concern. The truck I have been driving the past three years has big windshields (not near as big as those greenhouse windows), and skin problems are happening on my face and arms.

But, the PO is going to need some new trucks. Two of the new vans were totaled here over the past few months. One was totaled after the driver ran a stop sign, and ran into the side a dump truck, and another ran into a dump truck two weeks ago, totaling it. They seem to be attracted to dump trucks.

I haven't looked in a while, but one on the old Jeeps was sitting at our PO, and being used as a backup vehicle. I will look when I get up that way to see if it's still there. It has delivered mail to my house before.
Agreed it's one ugly truck, reminds me of a flat bill ball cap. As for crosswind issues, I'm sure they thought of that in it's design. Won't be much of an issue anyway as most of those trucks don't go very far from the station to begin with. Mostly city driving really.

As for the sun exposure, carriers walk in it all day anyway so the little bit they get driving is not much of a big difference, I'm sure they use sun screen. Good thing they're not convertibles ehh?
 
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