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Old Mar 22, 2022 | 11:30 PM
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12vdc power feed

I have a 2021 supercab F250 4x4 Lariat, with the 7.3L gas engine, and I want to add a 12VDC "Cigarette plug" outlet under the passenger side dashboard (under the glove box), so I can more easily power some portable accessories. I have the outlet, and general location figured out, but I was hoping for some help about where I can most easily tap into a +12vdc feed (need ground also, but that is easier to solve). I would prefer a DC feed that is only active when the key is either in the aux position, or the engine is running, i dont want a constantly on outlet, so I dont risk battery depletion. I dont have any electrical diagrams, and things are packed in pretty tightly, I dont want to start cutting bundles or wires until I have no other choice. Anyone have suggestions, or a diagram that can be shared, I would be grateful.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2022 | 12:22 AM
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There should be factory installed pass through wires, although I can tell you from personal experience finding them can be a challenge. If you have upfitter switches you could use one of those. You would have the engine on/accessory on option and the ability to turn it off with the upfitter.

My 2022 XLT with a console has a 12 vdc outlet in the bottom right front of the console storage bin. Would using that work for you? (assuming you have that)
 
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Old Mar 23, 2022 | 12:59 AM
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Did you get the memo? For my dash cam, I used the aux fuse block located behind the passenger kick panel. I used a fuse tap where a fuse would normally go for a feature I didn’t have (heated steering wheel) and matched the amperage rating.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2022 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by BOSS 379
Did you get the memo? For my dash cam, I used the aux fuse block located behind the passenger kick panel. I used a fuse tap where a fuse would normally go for a feature I didn’t have (heated steering wheel) and matched the amperage rating.
That is where I grabbed power also, a stud for a grounding point is right there also.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2022 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BOSS 379
Did you get the memo? For my dash cam, I used the aux fuse block located behind the passenger kick panel. I used a fuse tap where a fuse would normally go for a feature I didn’t have (heated steering wheel) and matched the amperage rating.
Thanks for the suggestion, I did not have that memo, and that is the kind of guidance I was hoping for. I found the panel, my dexterity and vision both suffer from my aging so it’s not real easy for me to see or read the markings but I’m getting somewhere. Can I ask if you tap directly into the fuse socket from the front side, and use an in-line fuse, or did you pull the fuse panel further apart to get behind the cover to attach your wire ? I don’t see access to a terminal block or similar in my truck, it’s all covered. I am a bit reluctant to take that panel apart, mostly because of my poor vision … am afraid I will mess something up, break a tab I didn’t see, lose a screw I can barely see, etc. Thanks again for for the suggestion

(edit). Shortly after posting this I realized your actual inference of “fuse taps” , I thought it meant repurpose the fuse socket. I now realize they are commercial products readily available from busman or others, to create the circuit I need. Another case of “learn something by trying to fix something”
 
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Old Mar 23, 2022 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TPScoversheets
I did not have that memo
Sorry the memo comment was sparked by your screen name and the movie Office Space.

Taps are convenient because they have two fuse holders; one for the original circuit you are tapping and a second for the circuit you are creating. In my case the original circuit wasn’t used because I didn’t have that option installed.


Sample fuse tap

Different blade fuse sizes
 
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Old Mar 23, 2022 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BOSS 379
Sorry the memo comment was sparked by your screen name and the movie Office Space.

Taps are convenient because they have two fuse holders; one for the original circuit you are tapping and a second for the circuit you are creating. In my case the original circuit wasn’t used because I didn’t have that option installed.


Sample fuse tap

Different blade fuse sizes
All good here, I did think I recognized the humor of the memo, and I was trying to pile on in similar fashion. 😎 Thanks again for the info, saves me some frustration for sure. Already have some fuse taps on order with Amazon.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2022 | 08:22 AM
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I used the passenger kick panel fuse block and an "add a fuse" to get switched power for my dash cam on my 450. Easy place to get power and a ground in the same place. Just have to find a properly rated fuse that's on the ignition circuit.
 
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Originally Posted by KU4OJ
There should be factory installed pass through wires, although I can tell you from personal experience finding them can be a challenge. If you have upfitter switches you could use one of those. You would have the engine on/accessory on option and the ability to turn it off with the upfitter.

My 2022 XLT with a console has a 12 vdc outlet in the bottom right front of the console storage bin. Would using that work for you? (assuming you have that)
I would like a constant hot and that outlet is not. There are times when I want to charge for a couple hours when I'm out of my truck.
 
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If you want a constant hot you can wire it direct to battery with an inline fuse holder (adding a relay if necessary for higher loads). Otherwise if you have upfitters you can change a fuse position in the relay box to make some of the switches (the last two higher amperage relays iirc) always hot and wire to the relay.
 
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