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Old Mar 5, 2022 | 09:04 PM
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Time for a new engine.

Well cylinder 8 has a head gasket leak allowing my antifreeze to leak in and cause a miss fire. The price to have that fixed plus still burning oil from worn out rings just seems like a waste of money.

So I want to get a rebuilt engine put in. I have the 4.6 windsor automat transmission. What is the best 4.6 to put in with minimal changes? Also, while the engine is out are there any headers or something I should have put on to increase power? Tune? Intake? Throttle body? Better intake manifold? I'm lost.

I'm completely new to this stuff in trucks. I knew a lot about my accord, but since it has been totaled I'm switching my focus over.

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Old Mar 6, 2022 | 06:52 AM
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Why not just upgrade to the 5.4 engine at this time the gains you might not have to do an exhaust upgrade, but if you did all the better for the 5.4. The trans might be different and there are other factors but I would personally consider it ....
 
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Old Mar 6, 2022 | 08:40 AM
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Why not just upgrade to the 5.4 engine at this time the gains you might not have to do an exhaust upgrade, but if you did all the better for the 5.4. The trans might be different and there are other factors but I would personally consider it ....
I've heard the 4.6 are more reliable idk if that's true. Plus I'm not wanting to do anything to my transmission. It was rebuilt 5 years ago and only has 30k on it since then.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2022 | 08:52 AM
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Probably AER out of TX

I don't think headers will help you much, esp with power down low which is where the 4.6 is lacking.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2022 | 10:10 AM
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I rebuilt my 4.6 back in 2014 in my garage with excellent results. It now has 450k miles on the truck. Everything was in excellent reusable condition. I cleaned and reused all the pistons with new rings, just honed the cylinders. New bearings of course. There was NO ring ridge on the cylinders and it still had the crosshatch on the cylinders. The only thing different I used was a new plastic intake manifold. The original was aluminum. Can't remember why I changed it but it's worked perfect so far.
plus I get 2 more miles per gallon than before.
I would not trust anyone else to rebuild my own engine but that's just me.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2022 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by z 97ford1
I rebuilt my 4.6 back in 2014 in my garage with excellent results. It now has 450k miles on the truck. Everything was in excellent reusable condition. I cleaned and reused all the pistons with new rings, just honed the cylinders. New bearings of course. There was NO ring ridge on the cylinders and it still had the crosshatch on the cylinders. The only thing different I used was a new plastic intake manifold. The original was aluminum. Can't remember why I changed it but it's worked perfect so far.
plus I get 2 more miles per gallon than before.
I would not trust anyone else to rebuild my own engine but that's just me.
I dont have the time, knowledge or tools necessary for that.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2022 | 12:19 PM
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NvrDwn,
IMHO
Best thing to do is leave it a 4.6 and replace the motor with a reman
It will not be lacking that much power and your transmission will love you for it
The job will be 100 percent easier and it should run good when you are done
 
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Old Mar 6, 2022 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by manicmechanic007
NvrDwn,
IMHO
Best thing to do is leave it a 4.6 and replace the motor with a reman
It will not be lacking that much power and your transmission will love you for it
The job will be 100 percent easier and it should run good when you are done
That's what I was thinking. Is there companies to stay away from? Any idea what it costs to swap out engines and components?
 
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Old Mar 6, 2022 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by NvrDwn
That's what I was thinking. Is there companies to stay away from? Any idea what it costs to swap out engines and components?
Really you're gonna want to speak with the respective re-manufacturers and local shops. For instance, Jasper will typically only offer a warranty if it's installed by one of their certified installers.

I'm not sure I'd trust a Jasper, but they're probably ok, and a warranty is nice.

Fraser may extend a standard warranty regardless of who installs it? NOT SURE

You might be surprised what your Ford dealer would do -- in the case of my old 3V V10 they were pretty close to local indy shops.

I'm guessing you're still looking at a couple grand to have a shop R&R, but hopefully that includes fluids and possibly crating and shipping off your core. Things like hoses, fan clutch, etc are likely additional and on you.

Oh and let us know what numbers come your way. Unfortunately things are only going up and that has to push shop rates up. Gas just hit $4.19 in my corner of CO and I know I'll have to charge more for the work I do....
 
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Old Mar 6, 2022 | 06:50 PM
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You will need the vin # and numbers off the heads to order a motor most likely
Anywhere with a 3/36 warranty
The warranty works better
If you buy an Autozone et al. motor and have it installed by someone with credentials ( a shop)
2506.00, 3092.00 are some numbers for a reman engine 2v romeo about 2000-3000 to get it stabbed
You should not have to replace anything else except maybe the waterpump
It should come with everything else
Autozone will pay the labor to replace the motor again if they send you a motor that muffs up
Same with Ford or any other big company
 
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Old Mar 11, 2022 | 07:27 PM
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If I'm correct year 2000 has 240 hp, what was done to gain the extra power? I'd like to get as much punch out of this as possible

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Old Mar 11, 2022 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by NvrDwn
If I'm correct year 2000 has 240 hp, what was done to gain the extra power? I'd like to get as much punch out of this as possible

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Apparently '99 was the breakover for NPI to PI so that may be the difference you're finding
https://www.fordf150.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=94891
 
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Old Mar 13, 2022 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JRS2
Why not just upgrade to the 5.4 engine at this time the gains you might not have to do an exhaust upgrade, but if you did all the better for the 5.4. The trans might be different and there are other factors but I would personally consider it ....
Torque converter would be different and I’d toss in the driveshaft and 9.75” rear because I’d be making use of the truck, personally.

Also, it wasn’t until 2003 where the bump to 231 horsepower happened. I’m seeing either 215 or 220 from 1997 to that point. It that was the beginning of coil on plug (2000 models?), I would just find an ‘03 version and that should be a drop in.

2007-08 had 250 horsies. You definitely have to swap the intake since those electric throttle versus cable throttle, but I forget what needs to be tweaked beyond that.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2022 | 05:17 PM
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Power train gives the best warranty at 5 years unlimited miles and $75.00 hour shop time with their engines for around $2,700 5.4 2v 1999-2003 PI engines. You can buy more shop time amount and their 7-year warranty for around 300.00 more.
You have to place your intake and valve covers on the engine and it is ready to go more or less. They give you 30 days to make the engine change and they pick the old core up.

Jasper is too expensive on their engines ($6,000 for a 5.4 2v I was told) and a lot of shops do not like working on them as it is hard to get their money from them. Stay away from a long way away from the company that makes Advance Auto engines.
 
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