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Mar 17, 2022 | 05:25 PM

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sub1187

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One could argue conflicting information but they are using 150 lbs as the standard for two occupants on some of the payload ratings.

Mar 17, 2022 | 05:26 PM

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personanongrada

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sub1187

It wasn't in the manual, that was my mistake. It was in the fleet.ford.com towing guide. It's in small print but it has stated that for years.

What I read in the 2022 towing guide is that the passenger weight mentioned relates to towing capacity, but does not mention passengers in the very short section referencing payload. I think that others are correct in stating that payload is based on no passengers or gear, but full fluids.

Mar 17, 2022 | 08:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sub1187

One could argue conflicting information but they are using 150 lbs as the standard for two occupants on some of the payload ratings.

I dunno. Here's the fine print from page 2 where payload is shown.
"Maximum towing capabilities are for properly equipped vehicles with required equipment and a 150-lb. driver and passenger and vary based on cargo, vehicle configuration, accessories, option content and number of passengers. Maximum payload capabilities are for properly equipped vehicles with required equipment and vary based on vehicle configuration, accessories, and option content. See label on door jamb for carrying capacity of a specific vehicle. Horsepower, torque, payload and towing are independent attributes and may not be achieved simultaneously. For
additional information, see your Ford Dealer."
The towing capabilities sentence references passengers, but the max payload sentence does not. Don't want to start a war or anything, just want to point it out in case some people rely on that sticker and are close to the wire on the limit. That 300lbs does make a difference. Still, could just be the way I'm interpreting it...

Mar 23, 2022 | 12:03 AM

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CathedralCub

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The door sticker includes passengers/cargo/tongue weight/accessories/etc. in GVWR, as in curb weight plus passengers/cargo/tongue weight/accessories/etc. shall not exceed GVWR. Even changing tires and rims out for heavier units would need to be added to this. In the end:

1. What does the Earth feel from the overall weight of your vehicle? Is that number higher than the GVWR? If "yes" then you are overloaded. If no then you might not be overloaded, proceed to step 2.
2. What does the Earth feel from the overall weight of your front axle? Is that number higher than the front GAWR? If "yes" then you are overloaded. If no then you might not be overloaded, proceed to step 3.
3. What does the Earth feel from the overall weight of your rear axle? Is that number higher than the rear GAWR? If "yes" then you are overloaded. If no then you are not overloaded.

Same for GCVWR.

Dec 30, 2022 | 09:19 PM

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wrgrimes

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Yellow sticker vs CAT scale

So I took my new truck to the CAT scale today- gas full and no passenger.

King Ranch Standard; Powerboost; 2WD; 7.2KW; 360 Assist and camera

Base weight- 5500#

GVWR- 7350#

Payload= GVWR-Base weight

Payload= 1850#

My yellow sticker- 1787#

I used 2 KR std to estimate my payload

1856# & 1844#

Estimating is difficult due to the lack of information. The Ford tow information is about it, and it is limited, dated, and somewhat cryptic.

ALL of my estimates were well above 1800# using multiple trucks.

Of note, 1787# was assigned BEFORE my truck was built (according to the VIN specific calculator that was operational in October). From my experience of one, Ford is not weighing each individual truck and printing the appropriate sticker.

I am more comfortable with >1800#.

As a pleasant aside- My truck came with the Front Sensing System, which the 2023 Order Guide specifically excluded from 360 Assist. FSS required 360 Active (Blue Cruise).

Happy New Year!