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Have you checked to see if the breather tube (hose) is in the filler
hose. You should be able to see it. You can pull the filler hose off the tank and you should be able to see the breather tube there also. It should slide into a slot in the neck on the tank. If it is gone or kinked, plugged, etc... it will fill slowly. Also there is a vent on top of the tank, but more than likely it is the breather tube. Also make sure the filler hose is not kinked partially closed or drops down below the neck on the tank. Hope this helps.
hose. You should be able to see it. You can pull the filler hose off the tank and you should be able to see the breather tube there also. It should slide into a slot in the neck on the tank. If it is gone or kinked, plugged, etc... it will fill slowly. Also there is a vent on top of the tank, but more than likely it is the breather tube. Also make sure the filler hose is not kinked partially closed or drops down below the neck on the tank. Hope this helps.
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locknkey.... I don't mean to sound ignorant but what the heck is a fuel sock. I don't recall seeing anything like what it sounds like on my 83 F350 and I have had the tanks out more times than I want to remember.
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I got to thinking after I posted that one...my 77 had a mesh like screen in the inlet part where you put the gas in AND the inlet where the fuel goes to the carb. Now this is a 77 Ford Van with a 351w Ambulance. When I kept getting fuel stoppage from trying to put fuel in it, I realized after dropping the tank that this filter was there...had to look inside to see it. The tank also had a fuel breather hose that went to the charcoal Canister near the front which then went to the vaccum port of the intake. The screen-mesh was clogged with debre from who knows what...but I removed it and all is well...but I still have two clear view inline filters on it to catch anymore that the tank can manufacture.
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The fuel sock that he is refering to is a brass screen that is wraped around the pick-up tube on the sending unit.. it is basically a pre-filter so that you cant suck any chunks of rust into the fuel system.. if you find that it is plugged I would suggest removing it (VERY CAREFULLY) and replacing it with a piece of your wife's nylons. wrap it around the end of the dip tube and secure it with a good quality zip tie. I did this on my 80 2 years ago and it works just fine. (this was done on a truck with a carb and a mechanical fuel pump. I don't know what the sending unit on an FI truck looks like.
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fuel filler neck slows gas during fillup
I, too, am having problems with my Ford Ranger filling with gas too slowly. Damn it's frustrating. Mine is a 96, extended cab. I'm fairly certain the filler neck is not blocked: The prior owner was too fastidious to have alllowed anything foreign in his gas tank.
I suspect that the fuel filler neck was installed at such an angle that the gas backs up and causes the gas station's filler handle to shut-off. Some stations are worse than others, especially newer ones, which leads me to believe that it is the more sensitive back-spray sensors (on the filler handle) that give me the worst headaches.
I'm no mechanic, but what I can glean from this thread, the things that sound the most likely to me are the bits about "breather tubes" and whatnot.
I haven't talked to any mechanics yet, but wanted to see if others had had the same problem.
I'd be much obliged for any other info anyone might share.
John Bonitz
I suspect that the fuel filler neck was installed at such an angle that the gas backs up and causes the gas station's filler handle to shut-off. Some stations are worse than others, especially newer ones, which leads me to believe that it is the more sensitive back-spray sensors (on the filler handle) that give me the worst headaches.
I'm no mechanic, but what I can glean from this thread, the things that sound the most likely to me are the bits about "breather tubes" and whatnot.
I haven't talked to any mechanics yet, but wanted to see if others had had the same problem.
I'd be much obliged for any other info anyone might share.
John Bonitz
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i know what you mean about the 1/4 tank thing but those of us that are high school students and live ona tighs fuel budget dont like to lust go fill up when theres a whole 1/4 tank left after all tehats like 50 miles. all i have figured out abotu this is that my truck fills alot easier in the summer when its warm out. i know there are vapor lines that run up to that charcoal canister but mine is gone due to an incident with a rock... needless to say i still have an open vent tube. im tryign to deside whats easier to do drop the tank or pull the bed, than i will find out the nitty gritty details abotu this here fuel fill problem we all have.
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That tube could be filled with a dirt dauber wasp, they like rubber tubes to nest in for the winter....go get a canister from a junk yard an see what happens after you make sure the line is clear....I find them in the strangest places...
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I've been having this problem. I changed my bed out a couple of weeks ago. I've seen several posts on this subject, and the consensu has been that my breather tubes have fallen down into the filler neck, and that I would see it and be able to fix it easily when I changed my bed.
I looked, and there wasn't a breather tube in there. However, I could see in the filler neck where a tube might reside. I made sure my tanks were near empty when I started this project, so I could look down inside them easily. I didn't see where the tubes had fallen down into the tank either.
My question is, what does this breather tube look like? What kind of material is it? It looks like about a 5/16" gas line would sit in the cradle in the filler neck just fine. Would this be the way to go?
Does the breather tube just run down to the top of the tank so there would be an air gap?
It won't be as easy to do with the bed on there, but I think I can get to it from underneath.
Thanks,
Rick
I looked, and there wasn't a breather tube in there. However, I could see in the filler neck where a tube might reside. I made sure my tanks were near empty when I started this project, so I could look down inside them easily. I didn't see where the tubes had fallen down into the tank either.
My question is, what does this breather tube look like? What kind of material is it? It looks like about a 5/16" gas line would sit in the cradle in the filler neck just fine. Would this be the way to go?
Does the breather tube just run down to the top of the tank so there would be an air gap?
It won't be as easy to do with the bed on there, but I think I can get to it from underneath.
Thanks,
Rick
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The main thing that affects filling the tank is the breather tube that runs along the side of the filler tube. It needs to be able to remove the same amount of air as the amount on gas that you are putting into the tank. If this hose is kinked or blocked in any way it will give you problems. Also make sure that you are pushing the fuel nozzle all the way down into the filler neck. The end of the fuel nozzle has to be past where the vent hose enters the filler neck. The back pressure from air escaping the tank is what makes the pump shut off.
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I understand that in principal. That's what I was really looking forward to seeing when I changed my bed. I thought I would be able to just put the tube back in place, then walla, I would be able to sit in my warm truck while the pump pours gas into my tank. Unfortunately, the issue with mine is, that breather tube does not exist on my truck, so I still have to stand out in the cold and hold the pump lever just short of the first notch that will let it lock, and hold the pump nozel just inside the lip enough to pump gas. Anything else, and the pump shuts off, and gas flies out all over my shoes.
If I understand correctly, there should be a tube of some sort running along the inside of the filler neck.
Since mine is missing, not just out of place, I have no idea what it looks like. I can't find any mention of it in any of my parts catalogs, and when I talk to mechanics about it, they act like they don't have a clue what I am talking about.
I wish I had taken pictures of the filler neck while I had it apart. I see a place where I could conceive a hose or tube of some sort sitting nicely.
I just don't know what this hose should be. Is it just gas line that runs along inside the neck?
Thanks,
Rick
If I understand correctly, there should be a tube of some sort running along the inside of the filler neck.
Since mine is missing, not just out of place, I have no idea what it looks like. I can't find any mention of it in any of my parts catalogs, and when I talk to mechanics about it, they act like they don't have a clue what I am talking about.
I wish I had taken pictures of the filler neck while I had it apart. I see a place where I could conceive a hose or tube of some sort sitting nicely.
I just don't know what this hose should be. Is it just gas line that runs along inside the neck?
Thanks,
Rick