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Old Jan 25, 2022 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by shawnee1
I agree with the quote. I don't agree that the "legacy" chips used in today's cars are 18 years old or that using the "legacy" chips is an indication that the automotive industry is not willing to change.

You also have to look at the age of the programmer at Fords.....Old.

https://fortune.com/2021/09/17/chip-...tor-stone-age/

90nm chips were 2000-2004. Ya, time to get with even 2015 tech.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2022 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Grass Lake Ron
You also have to look at the age of the programmer at Fords.....Old.

https://fortune.com/2021/09/17/chip-...tor-stone-age/

90nm chips were 2000-2004. Ya, time to get with even 2015 tech.
So circling back to the OP. Intel may be investing big bucks to bring more chip production to the US but they probably still want the auto makers to update their designs.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2022 | 12:36 PM
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So circling back to the OP. Intel may be investing big bucks to bring more chip production to the US but they probably still want the auto makers to update their designs.
Yes!!!!!!!!! If they went to Arm, they would have many more options then just an old Harvard Style Chip architecture.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2022 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Grass Lake Ron
You also have to look at the age of the programmer at Fords.....Old.

https://fortune.com/2021/09/17/chip-...tor-stone-age/

90nm chips were 2000-2004. Ya, time to get with even 2015 tech.
Interesting article. It highlights the challenges the automakers have in adopting the latest chips. Until recently, the automakers approach has worked well. I'm sure the automakers are looking at their supplier management strategies as well as their electronics design approach in light of the recent supply issues. There are no simple answers.





 
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Old Jan 25, 2022 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Grass Lake Ron
90nm chips were 2000-2004. Ya, time to get with even 2015 tech.
90nm Holy cow that's ancient for chip architecture, the cpu in the pc I just built is 7nm.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2022 | 05:05 PM
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90nm Holy cow that's ancient for chip architecture, the cpu in the pc I just built is 7nm.
My old Mac laptop (late 2009) is 45nm, core2 duo.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2022 | 06:21 PM
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My old Mac laptop (late 2009) is 45nm, core2 duo.
1st pc I ever built back in 95 was 800nm. 486 dx 2 66 non pentium. How far we've come in such a short amount of time eh? The one I just built has a Ryzen 9 5900x.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2022 | 09:31 AM
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1st pc I ever built back in 95 was 800nm. 486 dx 2 66 non pentium. How far we've come in such a short amount of time eh? The one I just built has a Ryzen 9 5900x.
My first home machine was a Commodore 64. My first main frame was an IBM 7090. Times have changed. I miss my 64..... And GEOS!
 
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