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Old Jan 19, 2022 | 01:22 PM
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Not sure what your question is?
Just a rhetorical question, aimed at FORD...
 
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Old Jan 19, 2022 | 01:29 PM
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Yeah I agree. The first time I pulled my 5er and I started going down a hill with the cruise set, the truck started to scream. I think I seen 5000 RPM's!! I almost puked! Then figured out that using manual mode, I could pick the best shift points. for my setup, I shift up at 3900 RPM's. That's right at the end of my maximum power band and seems to work way better than letting the truck shift on it's own. When slowing down, I mostly use trailer breaking.....
 
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Old Jan 19, 2022 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 2021F350
I agree with the screaming engine, dropping a few gears is great, but, really? What's with it dropping into 3rd doing 55MPH.?
Its a shot at engine braking for the Gas guys but ive found its not all that effective unless you have the 4.30 gearing. It just helps to shift yourself in the gas trucks when towing. Tow/Haul mode just holds gears too long and downshifts too aggressively. Best practice is to operate it like a manual transmission and plan your shifts accordingly.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2022 | 03:40 PM
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This is my first post here on the forum. I have owned 3 trucks in my lifetime ('78 Ford 150, 2000 F250 7.3L diesel, and my current 2014 F150 5.0L). I just ordered a new 2022 F250 with the 6.7 diesel. I have always locked out 6th gear when towing my boat with the F150 and it makes a big difference. My 2000 diesel had an "overdrive" button on the shifter that I would push when towing. My question is, with this new 10 speed transmission, do any of you lock out the gears while towing? I read other posts that some people lock out 8, 9, and 10 while towing. I am not familiar with the new 10 speed transmission, so I don't know if it is necessary with the power of the diesel. I tow a boat that is usually less than 3,500 pounds total weight. I know the truck might be overkill for what I do, but I do travel long distances with it. Thanks for any and all responses.
3500lbs boat with the diesel? You won't even notice its there. Put it in tow/haul and go. No need to lockout gears.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2022 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 2021F350
I agree with the screaming engine, dropping a few gears is great, but, really? What's with it dropping into 3rd doing 55MPH.?
Lol my 6.2 does this in T/H going down hill towing my 9K camper. Engine/transmission braking with the 6.2 is pretty much non existent, especially with the 3.73 rear end. Depending on the % of descent, sometimes I'll manually put it in 3rd at the top and feather the truck/trailer brakes. OP, you'll have no issues with your setup unless you're doing something wrong, lol
 
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Old Jan 19, 2022 | 07:12 PM
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Do you have a 3.31 final drive ratio? I wouldn't lock out any gears nor would I select tow haul for a 3500 lb trailer.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2022 | 07:58 PM
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The diesel in tow haul is all you need to do. All the locking out comments are regarding the gas engines which appear to need lock out of gears. Passed a farm tractor today on a two lane road and stepped on it to get by fast. Truck almost broke the tires loose at 40 mph. Crazy fast acceleration.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2022 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by OverheadCram
Its a shot at engine braking for the Gas guys but ive found its not all that effective unless you have the 4.30 gearing. It just helps to shift yourself in the gas trucks when towing. Tow/Haul mode just holds gears too long and downshifts too aggressively. Best practice is to operate it like a manual transmission and plan your shifts accordingly.
100% agree with this..I tow 9k with the 7.3 and I manually shift except on flat level road, then I lock out 7th @ 60mph.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2022 | 08:39 PM
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You have to be much heavier in the 6.7 to start using the shifting lockout.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2022 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 4by4ord
Do you have a 3.31 final drive ratio? I wouldn't lock out any gears nor would I select tow haul for a 3500 lb trailer.
It will come with the 3.55 rear end. Thank you for your input.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2022 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Fish2Win
It will come with the 3.55 rear end. Thank you for your input.
3.55 gears is very similar to driving with 3.31 gears and locking out 10th gear. I have 34" tires 3.31 gears and usually don't start locking out gears until I'm towing over 20,000 lbs. Occasionally I lock out 10th with my 16k 5ver.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2022 | 09:35 AM
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I'm convinced those of you manually locking out gears are the same ones who don't rely on the "auto" climate control. I bet you have it set to "LO" and adjust the fan speed manually don't you? I don't get the point, for either example.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2022 | 10:05 AM
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I have the 6.7L with 3.55 rear end and tow an 11k GVWR bumper pull trailer. I use tow/haul and don't lock out gears on the flats. I do actively manage the gears going downhill with the engine brake engaged in the first setting (manual). This is an HD truck with an HD transmission.

In my prior half ton truck I did have to actively manage the gears when towing, locking out gears to prevent the transmission from overheating. That's why I bought a Super Duty, so I don't have to fiddle with the transmission as much.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2022 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by HRTKD
I have the 6.7L with 3.55 rear end and tow an 11k GVWR bumper pull trailer. I use tow/haul and don't lock out gears on the flats. I do actively manage the gears going downhill with the engine brake engaged in the first setting (manual). This is an HD truck with an HD transmission.

In my prior half ton truck I did have to actively manage the gears when towing, locking out gears to prevent the transmission from overheating. That's why I bought a Super Duty, so I don't have to fiddle with the transmission as much.
Granted, I haven't gone down any epic grades with this truck yet , but my preference is to put the transmission in T/H mode, set the engine brake to Automatic, apply brakes until my descent speed is achieved then just let the truck downshift as it needs to control the speed.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2022 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by redford
Granted, I haven't gone down any epic grades with this truck yet , but my preference is to put the transmission in T/H mode, set the engine brake to Automatic, apply brakes until my descent speed is achieved then just let the truck downshift as it needs to control the speed.
Steepest grade I've been on is 11%. I get more "action" from the exhaust brake in the manual mode. For gentle grades, I'll let the system manage the speed as it does that pretty well. But on the mountain passes, the truck doesn't know that a 25 MPH curve is coming up. That's where manual operation of the transmission (in Manual mode, not just locking out gears) works best for me.

How you use the truck depends on where you're driving, how much you're towing and what you're comfortable with. YMMV.
 
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