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Old Jan 11, 2022 | 08:01 AM
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Excursion brakes problems

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I have been having some problems with the brakes on my 01 excursion. The truck sits outside and sees around 6000 miles a year on average. The problem I am having is that the calipers and the caliper pins are freezing up. I have owned the truck for 6 years and put around 30,000 miles on it. When I bought the truck, it just had 3 calipers replaced and a complete brake job. Since I've owned it, I have replaced 3 calipers (2 back and 1 front), 2 caliper mounting brackets due to the pins rusting up, and a couple of times of freeing up the pins without replacing anything. I have been told by mechanics that the super duty trucks have had problems with calipers. Is this the case, or do I have a different problem? Does the truck need to be driven more (it should be)?
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Old Jan 11, 2022 | 08:06 AM
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When any work was done were the caliper pins lubed properly? They have a tendency to get stuck if that is skipped. and wear out early. That woulkd be the first thing I would check.I am in north NJ and have not had that issue over the last 2 years and have barely been able to drive my Ex.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2022 | 08:11 AM
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What condition are the hoses in? If they collapse internally they can cause the Calipers to stick.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2022 | 10:11 AM
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The hoses appear to be in good shape. I have got into the habit of regreasing the pins when I rotate the tires and using a high temp caliper grease. I am completing a rear brake job in which one of the pistons of the caliper was stuck so bad I could not get it to move. On the other side, a caliper pin is rusted so bad that I cannot get it to move. Thus, destroying the rear pads and one rotor. This has just become routine every couple of years.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2022 | 10:24 AM
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With the slide pins properly lubed I don’t know how they would be rusting………..other than being in MN.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2022 | 12:27 PM
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Just trying to assist with problem solving here:

- Are you getting the pin boots installed properly? If they're not seated properly to seal the pin after it's greased, that would allow moisture and road salt to infiltrate easily.
- Does the Ex ever get driven through water, light flooding frequently?
- What quality/brand of calipers are you getting? Rebuilds or new, OEM, Napa, Autozone?
- Consider a preventative maintenance schedule to check and re-grease the pins based on time, not mileage. I live in Wisconsin with road salt all winter. Some years mileage my mileage is under 5K. I check calipers and service them about every two years, in the summer time when the weather is good. It's a pretty easy process. Also helps identify caliper pin issues early, before they're frozen up.

Keep us posted on how it's going and what your approach is.

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Old Jan 11, 2022 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotwire2020
The truck sits outside and sees around 6000 miles a year on average. The problem I am having is that the calipers and the caliper pins are freezing up..
Those two points are related. Any time these trucks sit around the calipers tend to stick; it's not unusual to have to replace calipers for low-use trucks. I've replaced mine twice in 60k miles (I drive 10k a year or so, but sporadically and mostly in summer).

My shop says "drive it more" and I'm like "hey, I'll do what the doc says..."
 
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Old Jan 12, 2022 | 08:22 AM
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I believe there is a Ford bulliten about cleaning and relubing the pins every 6mos if not driven on a regular basis.I was going through calopers and pads like crazy on my 02 Quigley 4WD van until I started to pull the pins each spring and fall.Also,check U-Tube for a tutorial on properly installing the pins and boots.If the boots are not installed properly, it allows water to get in and rust the pins.
 
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I noticed that my pins and calipers on the front would cause issues if not driven regularly. Drove me NUTS. I even went so far as to replace the rubber lines all around with Russell braided steel lines. It just came down to regular use, in my instance.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2022 | 08:02 PM
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Thanks for all the comments. It sounds like this may be a common issue with the low use and the Minnesota winters. I'll make a point to drive it more and keep up with the pin maintenance.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2022 | 09:10 PM
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Make sure you use the appropriate rated grease for the slide pins. Do not use chassis grease!
 
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