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back in the day ,, we had a 92 f250 and florida had these madatory emissions checks for all vehicles under a certain gvwr
of course they stuck a probe in the pipe and ran you on a dyno roller
my truck was a 7.3 and the law failed to acknowledge the gasoline tests could not be done on an oil burner, so we still had to sit in line for hours...pay 10 bux and the tech would say thanks we cant do the tailpipe test, **** YOU pay me smile and take my money.
florida had these great facilities with excellent dynos ...they closed them in 2003 ish thank goodness
i bet we polluted more bu sitting in long lines for hours than the actual cars on the road
i foresee these coming again nationwide if you know what i mean
I don't know where all these guys live but most any southern state will be OK. All you need to know is if they do emissions and if so do they do diesels. GA does not do diesels. I have been hearing these scare stories since 2008 but I've yet to see a private owner have a problem. I'm told NY and CA do random checks but again that's what I'm told on line. As best I could tell by reading most of the state enforcement is aimed at big commercial rigs. But, even so I would suggest that you not buy a deleted truck without getting all the parts with it. We never know what the future holds and if you wish to resell it will be a lot easier with the parts on it. Or if you move somewhere that requires emmissions. And, what somebody above said is probably true. It is illegal for the dealer to sell without emissions. That don't mean they won't do it and unless you have a hyper active state government I don't know who would enforce it. The federal EPA has enough to do without sending 175,000 dollar a year agents out to check what car dealers are doing. Hope this helps you.
Thanks for all the comments friends. The truck had all emissions removed (not included) but came with EZ Link and 5-Star shift on the fly tunes. Tempting because I've learned deleting one now is very difficult. And not knowing where we're moving to after Florida is too risky. So sticking with plan A and patiently wait for my 7.3 gasser.
Diesels are considered green vehicles and are emissions testing exempt in Texas (at least for now, never know about next week, everything can change with the carless stroke of a legislators pen).
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Just out of being nosey what is the front range? If I had to guess east of the Rockies but how does that make sense? Does the air above Uray stay there? I laugh because in GA we test cars only in like 10 counties. They test where I live so I can only assume that the air over the next county stays there.
Just out of being nosey what is the front range? If I had to guess east of the Rockies but how does that make sense? Does the air above Uray stay there? I laugh because in GA we test cars only in like 10 counties. They test where I live so I can only assume that the air over the next county stays there.
The front range emissions testing zone is a (mostly) liberal area of Colorado where whatever they want is what they get. It runs from Fort Collins in the north down to Castle Rock in the south. There are eight counties in that area that require emissions testing. The front range area has a history of smog that sets up against the mountains, to the east, and stays there due to how the air currents work (my interpretation). It's not a pretty sight and I'm happy to see it (mostly) gone. I wouldn't mind the testing if was inexpensive, but for a diesel it isn't. There are roadside test sites that they setup at onramps. Go through one of those often enough, and pass it, and you don't have to go to the dedicated state run* emissions test site, nor do you have to pay the emissions test fee. That can save you several hours! But only gas engines qualify for that. Diesels still have to go to a dedicated test site. The one I go to is a private repair shop. That worked out good for me because it got me in touch with a good shop that I subsequently used for some work I didn't want the dealership to know about because I'm still in warranty.
* - The state run sites are not your regular repair shops. They are privately run, but they're just testing, no repairs.
The thing with smog in California is most big cities have smog testing. Places like LA are filled with cars and trucks and when you come over the grapevine you can still see the crap in the air. it used to be a nice brown LOL. now with the smog testing. You can still see the air but more of a tan color. Not nearly as bad as before smog. Places in the mountains don't do smog because there aren't as many cars there so it's not necessary. Most people just buy these cars and drive them. Only a few think about ripping the smog equipment off there cars. I do however think deleting our trucks kind of opens a can of worms. Guys have CEL's and most times its the tune. Sometimes the guy uses the extreme tune and his motor blows up, or transmission problems. If you tune your truck it's hard for us to help a guy out because we have no idea what tune is in the truck or how the delete was done.
I don't know where all these guys live but most any southern state will be OK. All you need to know is if they do emissions and if so do they do diesels. GA does not do diesels. I have been hearing these scare stories since 2008 but I've yet to see a private owner have a problem. I'm told NY and CA do random checks but again that's what I'm told on line. As best I could tell by reading most of the state enforcement is aimed at big commercial rigs. But, even so I would suggest that you not buy a deleted truck without getting all the parts with it. We never know what the future holds and if you wish to resell it will be a lot easier with the parts on it. Or if you move somewhere that requires emissions. And, what somebody above said is probably true. It is illegal for the dealer to sell without emissions. That don't mean they won't do it and unless you have a hyper active state government I don't know who would enforce it. The federal EPA has enough to do without sending 175,000 dollar a year agents out to check what car dealers are doing. Hope this helps you.
I recently posted this year info that I heard when I got together with my fellow EVOC (police driving course) instructors for the semi annual academy class where we teach the recruits to drive.
Anyways, one of the guys has a side construction business so he knows a lot of guys in construction. Many of them were tagged by NYS DOT, were fined and had to put their pickups and big trucks back to stock. So my buddy drives a 2015 F350 that is now off warranty at over 100k miles. He wanted to delete but is hesitant due to the increased enforcement and increased scrutiny due to commercial plates and hauling commercial trailers/equipment. One of the Sheriff's there, drives a new Chevy Duramax and was telling us about a local cop who prides himself on writing deleted pickups. I disagree with messing around with guys trying to make a living. If someone is showboating and dumping coal all over, screw 'em. We kind of all feel the same way that as long as your not running a race tune and dumping coal all over, leave the responsible deleted truck owners alone. But that doesn't seem to be the case. I have a couple different options when it comes to deleting as I know friends of two shops so we'll see what happens but right now my driving routine and the fact I live in the hills south of the city keeps the regens out where they are supposed to be and gets the engine/emissions hot to produce passive regeneration on the way home.
Diesels are considered green vehicles and are emissions testing exempt in Texas (at least for now, never know about next week, everything can change with the carless stroke of a legislators pen).
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dont know where you are in texas, but emissions systems being installed are "inspectable" items at the annual check. whether or not they actually look is another thing altogether. and each county does have right to do actual tailpipe checks and OBD scans. but again its hit or miss.
just because the inspectors dont look or do a prescribed test does not mean its not required by law.