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Old Dec 23, 2021 | 10:34 PM
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This year I'm trying the Cooper Snow Claw. Soft and sipey. It has good road manners and braking in cold & dry, as well as cool & rainy. I haven't had to plow in super nasty conditions with them yet, but so far so good.

I had hakkas on other vehicles in the past. They are great winter tires for sure.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2021 | 04:13 AM
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at these noisy at all?
These have a faint or slight hum sound but not what I would call noisy.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2021 | 07:19 AM
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Having run blizzaks on every vehicle in the house for the past 20+ years, i am giving the Nokian Hakkkkkkkkkkepelllllitttttaaass a shot this year on the doody...



*And yes, i removed duratracs for the winter... They just suck on ice*
 
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Old Dec 24, 2021 | 08:22 AM
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I think it depends on your use, like anything. There are widely varied snow conditions and road surfaces to consider. In rural CO where I live the dedicated snows get torn up really quickly, I run way too many dirt and gravel surfaces. That is why my winter tires of choice this season will be duratracs. If not those, last 2 seasons were on Firestone XT's. I do not stud in the winter because ice is rarely an issue. We get big snow dumps that need to be pushed through, then the sun comes out and the road surfaces melt. The roads are actually dry much of the winter.

Out east, you are probably a lot better off with something like Hakka's or Blizzaks but for my winter application I prefer a much more aggressive and durable tread.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2021 | 09:30 AM
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Everyone has "their" tire that they think is best and probably are for the conditions they drive. It really is a trade off of what's best for the overall terrain your in city, rural or out and away ding weeds where only Bigfoot walks the roads.

Rodknee shows a good example in this picture. The left tire has some Siping (cutting thin slits across a rubber surface to improve traction in wet or icy conditions) and the middle tread can hold some snow for traction but the outside tread is spaced to grab and throw mud out (cleaning themselves for those conditions).

Whereas the right tire has major amount of siping for possible icy conditions and a tread pattern to hold snow for traction and probably a softer rubber but the tire would not be great in an off-road condition of mud packing the tread pattern and causing unwanted spinning.

Also having weight in the rear helps with traction.




Just something to think about when choosing a tire either for all around or dedicated service.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2021 | 09:41 AM
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Michelin agilis cross climates
 
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Old Dec 24, 2021 | 09:48 AM
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My experience with towing and using snow tires was not good. It chewed up the passenger rear Toyo Open Country G02+ bad enough that I had to replace the tire. I've read a couple of post that the Nokian does OK when towing, but I don't see how ANY true snow tire would last long due to the softer rubber compound.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2021 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Rodknee
Having run blizzaks on every vehicle in the house for the past 20+ years, i am giving the Nokian Hakkkkkkkkkkepelllllitttttaaass a shot this year on the doody...



*And yes, i removed duratracs for the winter... They just suck on ice*
Tell us more about those wheels! They appear to be steel… size and source?

Thanks,
Jim / crewzer
 
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Old Dec 24, 2021 | 10:55 AM
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Nokian Rotiva AT Plus has been a solid performer on my’16 F250 diesel. Solid performers in deep snow & icy roads. I run oilfield hotshot freight in central & NE PA, Ohio, WV, & western Maryland, a good many 6 - 10% long grade roads. Resists cupping, nice even treadwear across the entire face of the tire, solid steering & braking response too. Average life span 60 - 65,000 miles per set, pulled off at 5/32”. And their quiet for this type of tire.

Another nice feature, they have tread depth indicators molded into the tire’s center rib, shows percentage of tread remaining.

https://www.nokiantires.com/all-seas...tiiva-at-plus/

first picture is the rears with 9,000 miles use.



9,000 miles


This picture is the spare after 25,000 miles, 12/32” tread depth


12/32” depth at 25,000 miles

For reference, new tread depth is aprox 17/32”.
 

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Old Dec 24, 2021 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe T
Michelin agilis cross climates
I think this is a good bet although it's technically not a snow tire.

Does anyone know of any good non-directional winter tires?
 
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Old Dec 24, 2021 | 04:31 PM
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Tell us more about those wheels! They appear to be steel… size and source?

Thanks,
Jim / crewzer
They are standard 2017-2022 XL 17x7.5 steel wheels, just rattlecanned green. Got em from craigslist for $100 and bought a 5th from ebay for $60.




 
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Old Dec 24, 2021 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by number9xd
Goodyear Duratracs have been great on my GMC 2500HD in the snow and wet roads.
I run Duratracs on aftermarket wheels as well; they will get you through, but if you’re travels are though months of winter they do not hold a candle to a true snow tire.

I run Blizzak’s on the stock wheels during winter and could not be happier. Just pulled two people out of the ditch last weekend after multiple people tried to pull them out. One of the pull trucks had Duratracs other some off brand. Once they were done trying I hooked up and didn’t even spin a tire. (To be fare I have lockers all the way around though) https://www.bridgestonetire.com/tire...t/LT275-65R20/

Way better stopping abilities over the Duratracs as well. If you don’t see snow that often then would keep the Duratracs on all season.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2021 | 08:12 PM
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These have the three peak mountain snowflake symbol and have handled all the snow we’ve had in LA!
 
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Old Dec 25, 2021 | 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 603F250
Just picked up a new F250 CCSB, I've usually don't buy snow tires for my truck but my F150 didn't do very well here in New Hampshire. Just wondering if anyone has had good luck with a specific brand?
I've been running studded General Grabber AT2's the past few seasons.
Before with the Lariat & 20" wheels I used the Nokian Hakupolitta's.
Both are great tires with different tradeoffs imo. I feel like the Nokian's had slightly better traction. I prefer the GG's on the steer tires,
I still have the 20" Nokian's if someone's interested. Got less than 10,000 miles on them.
Keith
 
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Old Dec 25, 2021 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by bent-1
Nokian Rotiva AT Plus has been a solid performer on my’16 F250 diesel. Solid performers in deep snow & icy roads. I run oilfield hotshot freight in central & NE PA, Ohio, WV, & western Maryland, a good many 6 - 10% long grade roads. Resists cupping, nice even treadwear across the entire face of the tire, solid steering & braking response too. Average life span 60 - 65,000 miles per set, pulled off at 5/32”. And their quiet for this type of tire.
https://www.nokiantires.com/all-seas...tiiva-at-plus/

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I bought these for my winter set - don't have very many miles on them yet, but so far so good. I live between Reno and Tahoe, so occasional giant dumps of snow, but plenty of dry road driving in above-32* temps too. Truck came with the Goodyear ATs, which will be the 3-season set for now.
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I've had real winter tires on other vehicles, and put a set of cheap ones on the old truck - they worked great in snow, but wore fast under the weight of the heavy truck. Hoping the Nokian ATs give better tread life and still perform well enough in snow.

Reviews on the Rotiiva tires online suggested they wear a bit fast if used year round. Hopefully that indicates a softer rubber compound.
 
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