windsors had a 9.48 and 9.5" deck height, the vast majority of 302 and all 289 have a 8.206" deck height. You can keep your stock heads just oversize the valves (machining required) plus a port job, maybe deck them for compression. Top it off with an aftermarket intake, and a cam.

 

Pud you are indeed correct......

JW....I am giving insight as to how an older 88 model can be made to hold up if not exceed newer, more powerful trucks.......these new trucks make lots of HP and torque....the powerstroke making over 320hp/500ft lbs of torque....(with the duramax making less than the powerstroke I won't even mention it)

I do expect them to take me out on takeoff (where they make their power)....and they don't.....and I am making just about the same power and 100 ft lbs of torque less than they.....and I liked suprising this duramax owner.

as far as other GM truck with 350's.......they don't compare....even with vortec heads....

So my point, a Ford 351 can go out and spank a Chebby 350. (and it can be done cheaply)

 

Capone
Doesn't your truck weigh 4500 and the f 250 or similar 3/4-1ton weigh around 8000? Giving you a hard time don't take it personal. As I stated it previously, I agree with everything you said. I have been looking into the potential of the stock diesel motors with simple bolt ons, impressed is an understatement. I wasn't trying to cause friction, it was just something fresh on my mind if ya know what I mean? So I was looking at it from the other perspective. Otherwise as you mentioned heads+cam+headers=one fun 5.0/5.8. Your spanking modified gm's with vortec heads? How so? I quit, don't answer that, just messing around once again. Later

 

capone is so right as you all are! i continuously shyte on the 350 chev every morning to work, not to mention the 1500 ram, fat take off but they can't keep up and keep kicking down to third just to close up the gap.not to mention that i just have shorty headers, free flowing flowys exhausts ,chip and cold air intake...so i can see the heads+cam kit+intake+big tube headers=FUN

 

JW, I was looking at the emissions test and it reports the truck as 6200lbs for the GVW. So this explains why little highschool chics in their Geos were smoking me....before the new engine...

Giving you a hard time don't take it personal.
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Trouble maker!! No offense taken.....you will learn that I am a pretty good sport...

I have been looking into the potential of the stock diesel motors with simple bolt ons, impressed is an understatement.
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Well, a stock diesel engine really benefots from cyl head and intake portwork.....and if the right pistons are on the engine, a banks supercharger can also add some serious ponies to the ground.

I wasn't trying to cause friction, it was just something fresh on my mind if ya know what I mean? So I was looking at it from the other perspective.
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I know what you mean......now if I was looking from the other prespective....i'd see taillights!!

Otherwise as you mentioned heads+cam+headers=one fun 5.0/5.8. Your spanking modified gm's with vortec heads? How so?
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Ported intake and ported aftermarket heads?

I quit, don't answer that, just messing around once again. Later

 

will e: if you have the dough to drop, the windsor will kick much more *** than any old chevy 350. the chevy can only stroke to 383 whereas the 351w can be stroked to 425+cid (though any more than 408 isn't very practical for street use) which puts it into big-block power in a small-block package. and as we all know there is no replacement for displacement. if you don't wanna blow money on a stroker kit, get some good flowing heads, a decent cam, and open up the breathing.

the 351w has the same mounting setup as a 302.

your best bet is to rebuild your current engine, and upgrade the heads, intake manifold, carb, and cam. that shouldn't cost you more than about $2000 and the difference will be like night and day.

 

3 egg and others that have responded. thx for the new perspective on my 351. i am going to scrap the stroker kit idea and go with a new edelbrock carb and 2.25 dual exhaust immediately. later i will add edelbrock heads. i already have the carb and the exhaust work is scheduled for next mon.

 

Be sure to post and let us know how it turns out for you.

 

3eggomelet

YOu where close actually the small block chevy 350 can be bored and stroked to 454. BB cubes in a small block package. later

 

i just said stroked.
i wasn't talking about any boring except for .03 over.

stupid chevys.

 

A stupid chevy 406 made 490 hp and 520 lb. ft. on 87 octane. Which means that the 400 windsor I'm planning should do about the same with the addition of a $1200 block. It all boils down to money. Look out mod fans. Old school is taking over.

 

If the 454 small block chevy bores (bored to 4.250, wow) were replaced with a .030 over bore (4.030 bore) it would still displace 409 cubic inches or 402 with a standard bore (4.00 bore). So your still off a bit suggestion 383 as max. Just thought I would throw it out there for future referrence. good luck again with your project. later

 

Hey forddytube

How does the Superchip work?
I don't understand all I know about them.
Do you change the chip like a desktop computer,or
retune the system?

Thanks
Roland

 

JW:

A good friend of mine (unfortunately a chevy nut) informed me that trying to stroke a chevy 350 as much as a windsor is a bad idea because of the cylinder angles. He said that stroking the chevy over 4.030" x 3.850" causes the same type of "ovaling" that causes problems in the 347 stroked 302. He also mentioned something about how not all SB350's can be bored that much (i don't know anything about that though).