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Old Nov 15, 2021 | 01:11 AM
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Question about Long term fuel trims

I understand that when the long fuel trim line is high on the positive side (+21 in my case) it means that there is too much air going into the engine and the ECU is compensating by adding more fuel, but what does it mean when one of the fuel term trim lines is normal (around 0) and the second long term fuel line is +21 ? my car is 2007 ford explorer sport trac.

btw there are no error codes and the check engine light is off.

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Old Nov 15, 2021 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Amjadov
I understand that when the long fuel trim line is high on the positive side (+21 in my case) it means that there is too much air going into the engine and the ECU is compensating by adding more fuel, but what does it mean when one of the fuel term trim lines is normal (around 0) and the second long term fuel line is +21 ? my car is 2007 ford explorer sport trac.

btw there are no error codes and the check engine light is off.

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Does it say which bank? Could be a vacuum leak on one side of the engine.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2021 | 07:31 AM
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Bank one is normal and bank two is high, what should I check?
 
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Is the engine running roughly at all? Typically if you have a vacuum leak or a fuel injector that is not functioning properly you'll feel it as a misfire. And you can have a slight misfire that will not trigger a check engine light or active diagnostic code. You might have an intake manifold that is leaking, a fuel injector that is not functioning properly, a PCV elbow that is leaking (I don't recall which bank that typically effects first), a valve that is bad, or possibly an oxygen sensor that is not reading correctly.

Does your Sport Trac have the 4.0L SOHC V6 engine?

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Old Nov 15, 2021 | 08:25 AM
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Is the engine running roughly at all? Typically if you have a vacuum leak or a fuel injector that is not functioning properly you'll feel it as a misfire. And you can have a slight misfire that will not trigger a check engine light or active diagnostic code. You might have an intake manifold that is leaking, a fuel injector that is not functioning properly, a PCV elbow that is leaking (I don't recall which bank that typically effects first), a valve that is bad, or possibly an oxygen sensor that is not reading correctly.

Does your Sport Trac have the 4.0L SOHC V6 engine?

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Yes the engine is idling rough and there is a high fuel consumption, and yes my sport trac is 4.0L V6 engine, I went to a mechanic to check this problem and after he used the scanner he wasn't sure too, I'll try and do a smoke test and see if I can find a leak, if I couldn't find anything I'll take the truck to another mechanic.

Do you have any suggestions on what should I check?
 
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Old Nov 15, 2021 | 03:10 PM
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Bank 2 is the driver's side of the engine.
I'm not familiar with the SOHC engine but I'd check the easy stuff first, check around the driver's side for any cracked hoses and such.

 
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Yep, checking the easy stuff first, as suggested above, is the place to start. If you have the ability to do a smoke test, that is also a good tool to help locate a vacuum leak. Beyond that, it's pretty much what was suggested above, checking for a fuel injector that maybe isn't opening, replacing the upstream oxygen sensors, and performing a cylinder leak down test to see if you have a valve or two that is not properly closing.

Also, there are two different 4.0L V6 engines - one that's an overhead valve, and one that is SOHC. For what's already been suggested, it probably doesn't matter. But there may be folks who are aware of typical issues with one version over the other (such as PCV elbows that crack).

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