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Old Oct 18, 2021 | 02:23 AM
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To level or not to level

I have a 2015 F350 Crew cab short box 6.7L on factory 20s I use my truck as my daily driver and I tow a 8k travel trailer on about 7 to 9 trips a year im coming up due for new tires and can't decide between keeping with the factory size 20s and no level so I can keep my ease of towing and run my preferred brand of tires wich is coopers either in a AT3 XLT or a Cooper Rugged Trek, my other though is to bump up to a 295/65R20 and a leveling kit that has a sway bar recollection bracket but by doing this I would have to ditch the Coopers and go with Toyo AT3s or BFG KO2s since the a/t coopers don't come in a 295/65R20 but on the other hand it would give me an excuse to level the truck to give it a nice stance with the 35s but then I worrie about the squat I will get when I tow unless I fork out even more money for air bags or a bigger rear block since I don't wanna squat when I tow (I do use a weight distribution hitch on my travel trailer) I don't off road so don't need mud tires but like the look of a leveled truck alot more then the raked look I'm just scared that I'll have a bad squat towing and I'm also scared to jump ship from cooper tires that I've had on my f150 and 6.0 and that came on my current truck any advice would be appreciated thanks
 
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Old Oct 18, 2021 | 05:25 AM
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Welcome to the forum.
Those that like level kits are gonna tell you yes and all the reasons why, and those that prefer to leave theirs alone are gonna say no and all the reasons why. So you are still gonna be stuck making your own decisions.
Just the way forums work when asking for opinions.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2021 | 06:15 AM
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Not sure how many miles your trucks sees a year, but I vote for no leveling. Would add Timbrens instead of bags, saves a few bucks. Nice pic.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2021 | 07:07 AM
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If the trailer isn’t hooked up in that pic, research what front spring you have because it looks pretty high in the front already.


Quite frankly I would suggest a 285/65/20 and put your money into higher end performance shocks. Maybe consider one of the taller 295/60/20 tires available (I think the cooper at3 is one).


I wouldn’t lift much over what the factory snowplow prep springs lifted the front. You dont need to to and should be able to fit a 295/65/20 at that height.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2021 | 12:28 PM
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In your case, you can have one or the other....but having both could be costly.

Stock suspension, the truck is level while towing or loaded but has a bit of a rake when empty.

Leveled, the truck squats while towing or loaded but sits level when empty.

If leveled, for the few times you do tow or are loaded, airbags might make really good sense. You have a F350, towing a very reasonably sized trailer. Your rear axle won't get overloaded with the added pressure of airbags.

The 295/60r20 option isn't bad. The tires measure out to a true 34" x 11.5" as opposed to 35's that usually measure around 34.5" tall. I've got a stock height F250 used for towing and put 295/60r20s on. They are a bit wider and taller than stock but nothing over the top.

Another thought (most will probably hate it) for leveling is to bring the rear down. If you went with 35's or the 295/60 option, you could drop the rear by about 2" with F250 blocks and not mess with the front at all.

Is the leveling kit you're looking at for the front basically spacers that go under the coil springs?
 
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Old Oct 18, 2021 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe T
If the trailer isn’t hooked up in that pic, research what front spring you have because it looks pretty high in the front already.


Quite frankly I would suggest a 285/65/20 and put your money into higher end performance shocks. Maybe consider one of the taller 295/60/20 tires available (I think the cooper at3 is one).


I wouldn’t lift much over what the factory snowplow prep springs lifted the front. You dont need to to and should be able to fit a 295/65/20 at that height.
Here is a better side picture of how she sits unloaded

 
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Old Oct 18, 2021 | 02:32 PM
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Well never mind about running coopers being a pro to staying stock just read Goodyear now owns Cooper so I won't be buying Coopers again guess I'll look into the KO2s or Toyo AT3
 
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Old Oct 18, 2021 | 02:45 PM
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No. It's not needed.
If you do level it, make sure to get a BIG exhaust tip!
 
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Old Oct 18, 2021 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by clarkbre
In your case, you can have one or the other....but having both could be costly.

Stock suspension, the truck is level while towing or loaded but has a bit of a rake when empty.

Leveled, the truck squats while towing or loaded but sits level when empty.

If leveled, for the few times you do tow or are loaded, airbags might make really good sense. You have a F350, towing a very reasonably sized trailer. Your rear axle won't get overloaded with the added pressure of airbags.

The 295/60r20 option isn't bad. The tires measure out to a true 34" x 11.5" as opposed to 35's that usually measure around 34.5" tall. I've got a stock height F250 used for towing and put 295/60r20s on. They are a bit wider and taller than stock but nothing over the top.

Another thought (most will probably hate it) for leveling is to bring the rear down. If you went with 35's or the 295/60 option, you could drop the rear by about 2" with F250 blocks and not mess with the front at all.

Is the leveling kit you're looking at for the front basically spacers that go under the coil springs?
RU-5-107 RUGGED is the part number on the shops estimate they want $160 for the part and $220 in labor plus the cost of alignment
 
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Old Oct 18, 2021 | 09:40 PM
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Hmm didn’t know that.

I would get some Japanese tires, ones made in Japan or Korea. Plenty of options there.

I would do a 1 inch under the spring lift and high quality shocks like Fox 2.0. Any mechanic can handle that and it wont throw much off otherwise at 1 inch.

Personally would go with a 285/65/20.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2021 | 10:50 PM
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Another suggestion, Yokohama Geolander 015, slightly oversized for a 285/65/20.

Japanese company, that tire is made in Thailand. Thailand is a leading producer of natural rubber and that is an important industry for the world. They haven’t been jacking with us politically.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2021 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe T
Hmm didn’t know that.

I would get some Japanese tires, ones made in Japan or Korea. Plenty of options there.

I would do a 1 inch under the spring lift and high quality shocks like Fox 2.0. Any mechanic can handle that and it wont throw much off otherwise at 1 inch.

Personally would go with a 285/65/20.
yea leaning to a 1.5 inch kit so it won't squat as bad towing
 
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Old Oct 19, 2021 | 05:07 PM
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I think over 1” and you need to address the trackbar.


I would do that; or 2” with the drop bracket and caster shims.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2021 | 11:09 PM
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Ok so I think I will put airlift airbags in the rear since I get a awesome deal on them at the rv dealership I work for and have a friend who will help me install them then I'll do the 1.5 inch leveling kit so my truck won't appear to sit nose high I don't see anything wrong with this does anyone else? Then I'll do the 295/65R20 Toyo AT3s most likely.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2021 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe T
Another suggestion, Yokohama Geolander 015, slightly oversized for a 285/65/20.

Japanese company, that tire is made in Thailand. Thailand is a leading producer of natural rubber and that is an important industry for the world. They haven’t been jacking with us politically.
howocme Yokos over the toyos? And why 285 vs 295?
 
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