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Old Oct 7, 2021 | 11:19 PM
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Hydroboost?

I'm thinking about ordering a new truck. I've read about how some trucks come with hydroboost and some come with vacuum brakes. I've read it may be directly related to gvwr which makes sense. I find vacuum booster brakes are inferior and would like to order a truck with hydroboost. Do we know what combination you need to get in order to get a truck built with hydroboost?

I'm thinking about ordering a F350 XLT, crew cab, long bed, 4wd, srw, 7.3, and 4.30 gearing.

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Old Oct 8, 2021 | 12:23 AM
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It might require a long bed. The highest available GVWR's are only available with the long bed.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2021 | 12:44 AM
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It might require a long bed. The highest available GVWR's are only available with the long bed.
Yeah I forgot to mention i want a long bed. I edited my post.

Is this something a dealer would know when I go to order a truck?
 
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Old Oct 8, 2021 | 01:04 AM
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I don't know what your concerns are with vacuum brakes, but I can say I had more issues with hydroboosted brake systems on work trucks than I ever heard of or had with vacuum brakes on any vehicle.

Regardless of the type of power assist, both will develop the same issues over time with respect to the hydraulic system. The hydroboost portion introduces another level of complexity and leak potential vs. the vacuum assist.

Since you are getting a gas engine, you will have vacuum to spare, especially on deceleration when you need it most.

Sure the hydroboost will have an electric backup if you lose the engine. More weight, more expense and more complexity and potential leaks, wiring and switch issues etc.

Swerving suggestion: Don't fret about vacuum brakes.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2021 | 01:33 AM
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I don't know what your concerns are with vacuum brakes, but I can say I had more issues with hydroboosted brake systems on work trucks than I ever heard of or had with vacuum brakes on any vehicle.

Regardless of the type of power assist, both will develop the same issues over time with respect to the hydraulic system. The hydroboost portion introduces another level of complexity and leak potential vs. the vacuum assist.

Since you are getting a gas engine, you will have vacuum to spare, especially on deceleration when you need it most.

Sure the hydroboost will have an electric backup if you lose the engine. More weight, more expense and more complexity and potential leaks, wiring and switch issues etc.

Swerving suggestion: Don't fret about vacuum brakes.
Its really a personal preference. From my understanding and limited research it looks like hydroboost brakes are better for heavier vehicles/loads and also require less effort vs vacuum brakes.

I've never heard of an electric backup on hydroboost...is this something new?

Vacuum brakes would work just fine for me.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2021 | 04:58 AM
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CCLB 4.30's with AT tires gives you 11900gvwr and hydroboost.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2021 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by nova801428
Yeah I forgot to mention i want a long bed. I edited my post.

Is this something a dealer would know when I go to order a truck?
When the dealer enters the order, they can generate an order preview that will show the GVWR. This is the preview they’d likely use to have you verify your order before placing it.

As mentioned above, the 11,900 GVWR requires the CCLB, 7.3, 4.30 and AT tires. This GVWR will get you the hydroboost brakes. You can also get hydroboost in a similarly configured SCLB with the 11,800 GVWR.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2021 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 4B11TX
CCLB 4.30's with AT tires gives you 11900gvwr and hydroboost.
Thanks! Did they offer hydroboost in a 7.3 F350 short bed?

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When the dealer enters the order, they can generate an order preview that will show the GVWR. This is the preview they’d likely use to have you verify your order before placing it.

As mentioned above, the 11,900 GVWR requires the CCLB, 7.3, 4.30 and AT tires. This GVWR will get you the hydroboost brakes. You can also get hydroboost in a similarly configured SCLB with the 11,800 GVWR.
So hydroboost comes on high gvwr trucks? I'm assuming you can't get hydroboost on a shortbed?
 
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Old Oct 8, 2021 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 4B11TX
CCLB 4.30's with AT tires gives you 11900gvwr and hydroboost.
18" AT tires...from what I've read the 17" wheels don't get hydroboost.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2021 | 08:31 PM
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I have hydro boost braking....not sure if i can feel any difference than my vacuum system. my truck is F350, CCLB 7.3 w/ 4:30 & 11,900
 
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Old Oct 8, 2021 | 09:39 PM
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Thanks! Did they offer hydroboost in a 7.3 F350 short bed?



So hydroboost comes on high gvwr trucks? I'm assuming you can't get hydroboost on a shortbed?
Long bed only. GVWR over (not including) 11,500.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2021 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Dentside
18" AT tires...from what I've read the 17" wheels don't get hydroboost.
18” and maybe 20” too?
 
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Old Oct 8, 2021 | 09:54 PM
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IDK what my 2022 F350 has its CCSB, but I can tell you the brakes are tighter than any car I’ve ever owned. I’ll look tomorrow but whatever they are they stop like no other.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2021 | 10:10 PM
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Diesels use hydroboost and gas engines use vacuum boost. Diesels do not generate enough vacuum, so the *have* to use hydroboost. It is more complicated and expensive, but works well.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2021 | 10:13 PM
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I have hydroboost on my 11,900 GVWR CCLB 7.3 4.30s. When you place the order don't select a "derated" GVWR and as mentioned above the AT tires are needed to get the higher weight rating. Good luck with your new truck.
 
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