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Old Sep 13, 2021 | 07:50 PM
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Dead pcm

Truck died going down the road pulling the camper , will not restart.
No wait to start light no call for fuel pump no connection to forscan
Fuse 30 for fuel bowl heater is good, heater has been unplugged for a long time.
This is looking like dead pcm to me, any ideas other that that before I order a replacement?
 
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Old Sep 13, 2021 | 07:52 PM
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Check the chip and see if it didn't come loose.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2021 | 07:53 PM
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Old Sep 13, 2021 | 08:01 PM
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Turned truck off pulled chip, still no response from pcm
 
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Old Sep 13, 2021 | 08:03 PM
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Old Sep 13, 2021 | 09:12 PM
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How is fuse #3 (Data link connector) and fuse #19 (PCM)?

Might also be caused by a sensor that is shorting VREF. Try unplugging the MAP sensor, the EBP Sensor, the ICP sensor, and see if you get the WTS back.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2021 | 09:45 PM
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Are the relays for the pcm and idm engaging when key is turned on. It happens quick so you have to be touching the relay while turning the keyto run.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2021 | 10:44 AM
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Power is present at all fuses, idm and pcm relays are clicking active as key is turned to run.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2021 | 10:55 AM
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If you have a multimeter and want to double check everything by back probing the PCM connector, check out the links below.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post20036473

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https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post20036506

If you have what you are supposed to have there, you could check the PCM ground circuits at the PCM connector and if you have good grounds and 12v power, well the PCM may in fact be dead. At which point I would send it to Jonathan at Diesel Tech Chattanooga in the link provided by GregA above.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2021 | 12:10 PM
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First thanks for all your input, second it does indeed look like I need a pcm. All tests on the 104 pin harness checkout. So time to ship it off.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2021 | 12:51 PM
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Might also be caused by a sensor that is shorting VREF. Try unplugging the MAP sensor, the EBP Sensor, the ICP sensor, and see if you get the WTS back.
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A short to ground on the pigtail, or internally on any of these sensors can and will cause all the symptoms you are describing

Also included are the TPS, and CPS ... inspect the pigtails for chafing/exposed wires and disconnect 1x1 while turning the key to on, if you get your WTS light back you've found your bad sensor/pigtail ...
 
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Old Sep 14, 2021 | 01:53 PM
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As Josh mentioned above... Before sending the PCM off, maybe take just a bit more time and be 100% sure. I have attached the 5v reference pinpoint test from the PC/ED volume of the Ford Service Manual. It states "PCM breakout box", but you can usually work around this sort of specific test equipment.

More importantly, it names the sensors that are on the 5v reference circuit.

I have also pinned a wiring diagram from a 2002 that indicates the 5v reference circuit in color code.




 
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Old Sep 20, 2021 | 04:17 PM
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Ended up borrowing my brother's truck to salvage my hunt. After going over every sensor I could, verifying voltage coming into pcm harness I will be shipping my pcm out tomorrow.


 
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Old Nov 11, 2021 | 12:32 PM
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IT'S ALIVE!!!
sort of, had to jump start the truck but now it's not charging pulled alternator had it tested that's not the issue.
going to take break head back out after lunch.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2021 | 02:43 PM
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OK for real this time, it's all back together.
 
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