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Old Sep 1, 2021 | 04:07 AM
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Relay issue possibly

I have a 2012 F250 SD with fuses that have no power going to them when you turn the key on. They are accessories fuse to the starter, blower motor, and key components to run the truck. On the engine fuse panel the fuse numbers are 49- 56 That grid should light up when you turn the key on. I'm thinking a relay must operate that grid. If I put a 12V jumper wire to that grid everything works fine. As soon as I pull the jumper truck will shut off. If that grid does not have power the starter will not work. Any ideas where I can start looking?




 

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You're on the right track. Fuses F49, F50, F52, F53, F54, F55, & F56 are all fed by the RUN/START Relay which is in the underhood fusebox.

That relay's high side of the coil is fed by fuse F45. The coil is energized by a signal from the BCM. There's a whole lot of stuff that goes on in the background for the BCM to send that signal.

Check fuse F45, swap out the relay with another like relay that isn't critical for operation (mark them first!!) and see if either is the issue. After that, it gets a lot harder....

Also, if you need further assistance, specify which engine and transmission is installed, there are some differences.

 
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Old Sep 1, 2021 | 06:09 AM
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Thanks for the quick response.. Which relay feed that grid? I swapped 48 and that wasn't it
 
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Thanks for the quick response.. Which relay feed that grid? I swapped 48 and that wasn't it
 
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Old Sep 1, 2021 | 06:49 AM
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YOU ARE THE MAN!!!! It was the 10 amp fuse! Ford guy wanted to replace the main wire Harness.. Giving him a break it was 1:30 at night, and he didn't trouble shoot it to far. Thanks again my friend, you made someone's entire month!
 

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That fuse didn't just die for no reason.... If it blew once, there's a problem still remaining that may rear its head again.



 
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The fuse was corroded inside. When you looked at it, it was not blown, but would not let current travel to the other side.
 

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Well, that's a bit of an unusual failure!

 
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