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Old Aug 28, 2021 | 05:17 PM
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If Ford would have built this one, I would have been first on the order list.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2021 | 06:35 PM
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One would think but the Prius of Jeeps, a 2.0L four cylinder hybrid flat smokes a 2.7 on 35's. The Bronco barely beats a pathetic old FJ Cruiser. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-6CKyn99OM&t=423s
Yeah the ecoboost motors do not like big/heavy tires. Its a big weak spot they have, which is why I mentioned the smaller tires.

Ive had the 3.5 and 2.7 eco. I like the 2.7 enough I am probably buying another.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2021 | 07:25 AM
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i dont see how thats a surprising result. the instant higher torque of a hybrid jeep should be faster. The jeep is rated at 60 ft lbs higher if the bronco is using premium.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2021 | 07:34 AM
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Rubicon Hybrid. Talk about a mall cruiser…


If I had to get a hunting rig truck only used for recreation I would get a Gladiator with the max tow package (heavy duty axles and 4.10s).
 
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Old Aug 30, 2021 | 08:31 AM
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Rubicon Hybrid. Talk about a mall cruiser…


If I had to get a hunting rig truck only used for recreation I would get a Gladiator with the max tow package (heavy duty axles and 4.10s).
Right? Nothing like lugging around a big *** battery and a bunch of complex controls in a rig supposedly "trail rated". Anymore you have to watch all of them. The e-torque system employed on many models uses a 48V battery mounted near the rear axle with cooling lines running to it. Not exactly "off road" friendly in my book. I bought my wife the V6 manual that avoids as much complexity as possible and it is a Rubicon so it gets the heavy axles and 4.10s.

The "max tow" is pretty much on the Sport model and rated for 7000 lbs towing. The Rubicon Gladiator is rated for 6000 and comes with a lift, 33" tires, the heavy axles and 4.10s and would make a pretty good rig. Given the relatively gutless nature of the V6 though, I wouldn't be trying to tow anywhere near the max ratings, especially at altitude where I live. The new truck will tow the camper at my house, not the Jeep.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2021 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by RidgwaySD
Right? Nothing like lugging around a big *** battery and a bunch of complex controls in a rig supposedly "trail rated". Anymore you have to watch all of them. The e-torque system employed on many models uses a 48V battery mounted near the rear axle with cooling lines running to it. Not exactly "off road" friendly in my book. I bought my wife the V6 manual that avoids as much complexity as possible and it is a Rubicon so it gets the heavy axles and 4.10s.

The "max tow" is pretty much on the Sport model and rated for 7000 lbs towing. The Rubicon Gladiator is rated for 6000 and comes with a lift, 33" tires, the heavy axles and 4.10s and would make a pretty good rig. Given the relatively gutless nature of the V6 though, I wouldn't be trying to tow anywhere near the max ratings, especially at altitude where I live. The new truck will tow the camper at my house, not the Jeep.
The Jeeps are not tow vehicles by any stretch of the imagination. I don't know what the max frontal area is on the Gladiators but for our rig, a '21 Wrangler, it's like 32 sq/ft. That pretty much eliminates anything but a landscape trailer or equivalent. We've got the V-6 w/ the e-torque (their definition of torque & mine differ vastly) and personally I wouldn't tow anything with it that wasn't a very short jaunt. Also, have you noticed the rear overhang on the Gladiators? It's like 4'! You'd pretty much have to have it lifted not to drag the rear off it leaving the gas station.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2021 | 09:13 AM
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the gladiator frontal area limit is 40 ft^2 for none tow package and 55 ft ^2 for the tow package and max tow package
 
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Old Sep 20, 2021 | 02:04 PM
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My customer's Bronco Badlands w/ soft top vs Wifey's Jeep. Meh...... Interior is pretty nice but that soft top blows. We have the Fun 'n Sun package w/ the power sliding roof and just that little bit of a soft top makes it loud as hell in there.

 
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If I had the money to buy either a Wrangler or Bronco, I'm more inclined to go for the Bronco. I've driven so many wranglers for my job and worked on them, that I'd rather take my chances with the Bronco. I have too many reservations on them.
 
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I have zero doubt most people that compare a Wrangler and a Bronco back-to-back will choose a Bronco.

Absolutely must have a solid front axle? I'm sure Dana can set you up with a SAS... might not even void the warranty. The Bronco is the real deal. Do not worry about it blue oval fans!
 
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Old Sep 27, 2021 | 09:55 AM
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I have zero doubt most people that compare a Wrangler and a Bronco back-to-back will choose a Bronco.

Absolutely must have a solid front axle? I'm sure Dana can set you up with a SAS... might not even void the warranty. The Bronco is the real deal. Do not worry about it blue oval fans!
Solid axle is over rated compared to modern control arms. Camber/caster adjustment, less chances for death wobble. Add a lift kit to any vehicle really and you just really shorten the life span of suspension components. Majority of the lifted vehicles (Wranglers included) never see a day in the mid or trails.
 
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