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Old Aug 4, 2021 | 01:06 AM
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The "ANTI-SWAPS" build thread.

Follow along as we DO NOT install coyotes, LS, diesels or prius engines into a classic 1972 F100.

Subscribe and try not to vomit as we unscrew a 1990s era *******ized "newer, more efficient!" (Oh how WONDERFUL!) "swaps" attempt that nearly destroyed the truck forever.

Smile with admiration as we crush coyotes, destroy diesels, and Outlast LS's using 50 year old technology and all Ford junkyard parts.

There will be upgrades. Not the "I need a special sensor, a laptop, a PCM reflash and a software update to get this thing running again" type of upgrades, but common sense upgrades: Disc brakes, radial tires, suspension upgrades. (Sway bars, poly bushings etc).

Our goal is a rock solid, dependable, safe and easy to maintain daily driver that will have no problem putting late model garbage in the rear view mirror, effectively proving that it doesn't need to be expensive or complicated to be fast and reliable.

Best of all? We're still going to use it as intended: A truck. Start, run drive haul in any weather, drive it to work or cross country without thinking twice, cheap tuneups and simple maintenance with a handful of wrenches and a screwdriver, just like the old days.

And a special shout out to my boy "Cuz", who is my biggest behind-the-scenes critic, as he follows along and reports upon my progress.

Let us begin, shall we?
 

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Old Aug 4, 2021 | 06:38 AM
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Will be interesting to see how you beat the hp of the LS/Coyote and the torque of the diesel for cheap.

I have never been able to beat the "Fast, reliable, cheap- pick two" rule no matter how hard I try.

Good luck

 
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Old Aug 4, 2021 | 11:13 AM
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I have a 447 FE that has got great torque, reliable, but far from cheap. I think I could have done a coyote or diesel swap for less, had more hp from the Coyote or more torque from the Diesel for less cash. Obviously better MPG from either swap option over the 750dp holley on top of the FE but its a truck so we don't worry to much about all that. Fast, Reliable, Cheap as Lrrr-RulerOfOmicronP said, can only have two and I wanted to two options that were fun.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2021 | 11:54 AM
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Not trying to make any friends here huh?
 
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Old Aug 4, 2021 | 12:18 PM
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Talking Screwtinized already?

I personally can't wait to see his progress.
But looks like the "Screwtinize"ation has already begun. I'll bet he is up to the task though.
Forge on!

 
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Old Aug 6, 2021 | 07:33 PM
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Sub'd. This will be interesting.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2021 | 11:21 PM
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lol, in for the build and purse-swinging
 
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Old Aug 7, 2021 | 09:52 AM
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lol, in for the build and purse-swinging
Same here.
 
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As one that tore out the ancient technology in favour of better brakes, steering, power, comfort and economy I can say that I have never regretted changing from stock. My truck is used and abused and it does so better and cheaper now than it did when it was original.
I like old trucks though so all the power to you, can't wait to see how it turns out. I like budget builds.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2021 | 10:37 AM
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X3 on the pick two rule. You won't be crushing much of anything using junk yard parts as you state in your post. Getting 400+ horsepower with overdrive in an FE (if that is what was original) will be very difficult especially using "All junkyard parts" including a junk yard block, crank, camshaft and heads. Also who is the "We" that you mention throughout your thread?

"Our goal is a rock solid, dependable, safe and easy to maintain daily driver that will have no problem putting late model garbage in the rear view mirror"

Here's a thread currently on the forums documenting what our members would bring with them to accomplish a 500 mile trip in their trucks. It for sure doesn't reflect the rock solid dependable avenue you mention.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post20008478
 

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Old Aug 10, 2021 | 02:35 PM
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Old Aug 10, 2021 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetfixer-6
Here's a thread currently on the forums documenting what our members would bring with them to accomplish a 500 mile trip in their trucks. It for sure doesn't reflect the rock solid dependable avenue you mention.
Amazing to me how things have changed. I'm sure there are a bunch of you guys out there that remember how exciting it was to buy a 67-72 F100 new. Never had a thought about carrying a boat load of tools and parts around with the new truck "just in case". And really never had a major problem getting where we wanted to go. Maybe we were just more trusting back then, not that afraid of breaking down on the road and figuring a way to get going again. There were more cars broke down on the road back then, but everyone always got by - usually just minor stuff, and we would stop and see if we could help if we saw someone on the side of the road..
Although I do admit to packing a load of tools in the 80s going on a long trips, but usually never had to use them. Then decided it was a waste of time to take anything more than a few wrenches. Don't do that anymore, and the old truck would still get me where I wanted to go.Used it to move to my present location, 1200 miles one way trips, multiple times pulling boat, 5000# trailer, no problem - truck still bone stock (except for change from 3 on the tree to c6 right after I bought it). Never crossed my mind that it would fail me. Used it as a daily driver for years -pulling 5000 work trailer full of construction tools, never left me stranded. Of course, always had everything in top condition. Truck might not be pretty anymore, but still 100% mechanically sound.
When I was a kid a breakdown was just another adventure - and that only happened less times than fingers on my left hand (the one that still has all five)
Heck, now days my wife takes more stuff just going to town to get groceries - leaves no room in the truck for the tools!
IMO, there's no reason to expect problems if your truck has been taken care of. Of course you could always pull a parts truck behind you if you're worried you need to be ready for anything.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2021 | 07:45 AM
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There is a build thread in here or the dentside area where the owner was doing exactly this. Engine was rebuilt, nothing crazy. Suspension was rebuilt, I *think it had drop beams. Added swaybars off some other version of a Ford. Updated the brakes to some other ford version. Pretty much remedied any worn out and old part with new and rebuilt. Cant get much more reliable than that!

My best friends 96yr old grandfather still drives his 70' flareside work truck around. Some mechanical knowledge and WWG(what we got) attitude has kept that truck on the road for the 40 something years he has owned it. Its the go to truck when someone needs a spare.
 
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