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Old Jul 19, 2021 | 01:58 PM
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4WP/Smittybilt

Anyone have trouble with either of these outfits?
I am at a loss so far. I ordered an M1A2 bumper. It was delivered quickly. I installed it and found issues with parts. Bolts were not a great so I used some of the original hardware. Next I find parts do not fit correctly. I contacted Smittybuilt customer service 12 days ago. In contact with them almost every business day. I send photos and documentation. They see a problem but offer no remedy yet. If they cant fix it I want to return it. Tried calling 4WParts and always a 20 or 30 person wait. I am guessing lots of problems with that kind of backup at customer service multiple days.

 
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Old Jul 19, 2021 | 02:20 PM
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Can you loosen the winch plate so you can raise it up to match the bolt holes. Snug that up first and then tighten the winch plate mounts. Hard to help diagnose these things over the internet with out being able to see everything. On a side note, I gave up on 4WP years ago. I suppose nothing is bent in the winch plate mounting brackets or the bumper mounting brackets. As it states "winch cradle can be removed with bumper installed", I think it's an adjustment issue in the winch plate. While they may have sent the wrong plate, it is not common and maybe it going to take a bit to wiggle/jiggle it to make it sit right. Hate to ask but did you follow the directions or look at it and say "this should be easy, I don't need these" and wing it.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2021 | 02:29 PM
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Thanks but no wiggle room. Bolts run horizontal and vertical through the frame. Some adjustment possible but not that much. I think the front cover plate might be wrong.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2021 | 03:07 PM
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So is that plate with the M1A2 cut in it more a less a cover plate for the winch that comes of separately from from the main bumper.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2021 | 03:15 PM
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Yes
https://www.4wheelparts.com/p/smitty.../R-DSBP-612931
 
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Old Jul 19, 2021 | 03:42 PM
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I had the M1 on my 2013, no issues at all with the bumper. fit as designed. one heavy bumper.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2021 | 03:44 PM
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M1A2 not the same.
Dont think it is as big or heavy.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2021 | 03:46 PM
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I had the lights for mine go bad, they were very responsive and sent others out right away, no questons asked.

Surprised at the lack of response.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2021 | 03:49 PM
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Old Jul 19, 2021 | 03:59 PM
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Bad news. I want to order a winch and back bumper but will wait and see what happens first.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2021 | 04:03 PM
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Senix, Glad they were good for your light issue. I keep speaking with Smittybilt and they seem to be looking at it but 12 days with no solution. Not happy!
 
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Old Jul 19, 2021 | 04:12 PM
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did you send them at email or just a call? I use email and get better responses for everything.

I also bought mine and my winch through autoanything

 
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Old Jul 19, 2021 | 04:19 PM
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I will try that. I am just not going to wait for thirty something other phone calls before mine.
 
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I didn't see it mentioned, and not sure if you knew, but Smittybilt is one of 4WP's house brands. Keep your expectations low with this company, and all will turn out well. I've had a few friends who work there, even some doing customer service, and I'd never buy from that place. I drive by their national office all the time, but I've stopped trying to buy from them years ago.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2021 | 08:19 PM
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Are you sure you got the bumper for the correct year? Isn’t 17-19 one design and then 20-21 another? Just a thought.
 
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