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Old Jul 16, 2021 | 09:41 PM
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Ordering 2022 F250 need help

I am ordering a 2022 f250 with 7.3 liter gas. I will occasionally tow a 8000 lbs travel trailer. I don’t know which gear ratio to choose, 4.30 or 3.55. I was thinking 4.30 to have more power in low gear but I don’t want to have poor mpg.I pull the trailer thru the Sierra mountains. 7% grade.

Is 4.30s overkill for a 8000 lb trailer? Would 3.55 be adequate for the pull comfortably?

I thank you in advance for your experienced comments.

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Old Jul 16, 2021 | 10:14 PM
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I'd go with 4:30. 3:55's if you lived in Fl. You'll have poor mileage either way with the 7.3.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2021 | 10:29 PM
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You're buying a giant, rolling brick. Get the 4.30.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2021 | 10:47 PM
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Thanks I’m taking your advice as I was leaning that way. I recently sold my 2015 with the power stroke. I’ll miss the torque but not the DPF problems. Looking forward to the 7.3.

thanks again.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2021 | 11:29 PM
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3'55's will easily pull 8,000 lbs. Ford wouldn't offer it if it wouldn't.

People forget they have a transmission sometimes, it will be one gear lower on the hills and the only time it matters is in 10th gear. so just deal with it. . I pulled overloaded goosenecks through the mountains with a 390 with a 3 speed auto with 3.55 gears for many thousands of miles for years . but a new '7.3 with a 10 speed won't cut it ? I think it will.

If you were towing heavy loads a lot I could see lower gears otherwise the higher gears are better in every way. so just get a diesel if you tow that much.

That's my opinion, oughta be yours.



 
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Old Jul 17, 2021 | 07:48 AM
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From various internet sources the difference between 3.55 and 4.30's is about 1 mpg. With my research (see the 7.3 section of this forum), you can easily get 16.7 mpg or higher if you slow down to 55 mph over 70+. My pulling mpg on a 5000+ mile trip to Vegas and back pulling 7000 lbs, at 65 mph, was 11 mpg with the 7.3,4.30's, SCLB 4x4 on 33's.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2021 | 09:55 AM
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Since my build will not go in production for a few months, I have time to change. The gear ration is my concern, I want the low end power of 4.30 and the lower RPM in 10th with the 3.55. I may split the difference and change my order to a F-350 with 3.73 gears. This may solve my problem and give me room to upgrade my TT to a 5th W.

Anyone know if there is a ride height difference and a suspension ride difference between the two?
 
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Old Jul 17, 2021 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by varicha
Since my build will not go in production for a few months, I have time to change. The gear ration is my concern, I want the low end power of 4.30 and the lower RPM in 10th with the 3.55. I may split the difference and change my order to a F-350 with 3.73 gears. This may solve my problem and give me room to upgrade my TT to a 5th W.

Anyone know if there is a ride height difference and a suspension ride difference between the two?
Too many variables, like cab config, engine selection and options. A 250 CCLB diesel would ride nicer than a 350 reg cab 6.2 with plow/camper prep.
 
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Thanks BSHORT, had a diesel. I really want the new 7.3. My build is a F250 4x4 Platinum. One a 1to1 comparison, do you think the ride quality would be the same?
 
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Old Jul 17, 2021 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by varicha
Since my build will not go in production for a few months, I have time to change. The gear ration is my concern, I want the low end power of 4.30 and the lower RPM in 10th with the 3.55. I may split the difference and change my order to a F-350 with 3.73 gears. This may solve my problem and give me room to upgrade my TT to a 5th W.

Anyone know if there is a ride height difference and a suspension ride difference between the two?
The 3.73 axle is probably a generally good compromise between the 3.55 and the 4.30. Note the new 10-speed AT had a very deep first gear (4.615).

The differences in the rear suspensions are significant. The standard F-250 rear suspension is three leaves per side rated at 6340 lbs. GAWR, and the standard F-350 SRW 4x4 rear suspension with 18” or 20” wheels is five leaves (four plus one six per side) rated at 7230 lbs. GAWR. The F-350’s rear spring first stage deflection rate is a bit higher, so it’s expect the lightly loaded ride to bit somewhat more firm.

However, for mountain towing and the possibility of a fifth wheel, The F-350 7.3 4.30 may be the real solution.

The 3.55 and 3.73 axles are Sterling, and the F-350 SRW 4.30 axle is a Dana. I don’t know about the F-250 7.3 4.30.

HTH,
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Originally Posted by varicha
Since my build will not go in production for a few months, I have time to change. The gear ration is my concern, I want the low end power of 4.30 and the lower RPM in 10th with the 3.55. I may split the difference and change my order to a F-350 with 3.73 gears. This may solve my problem and give me room to upgrade my TT to a 5th W.

Anyone know if there is a ride height difference and a suspension ride difference between the two?
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Thanks BSHORT, had a diesel. I really want the new 7.3. My build is a F250 4x4 Platinum. One a 1to1 comparison, do you think the ride quality would be the same?
If everything was the same, except the engine, they should be pretty close in ride.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2021 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by varicha
Since my build will not go in production for a few months, I have time to change. The gear ration is my concern, I want the low end power of 4.30 and the lower RPM in 10th with the 3.55. I may split the difference and change my order to a F-350 with 3.73 gears. This may solve my problem and give me room to upgrade my TT to a 5th W.

Anyone know if there is a ride height difference and a suspension ride difference between the two?

Had a 250 with 3.55 order but wanted little lower gearing. So changed to a 350 with 3.73s. I dropped adaptive steering kept the price about the same.
 

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Old Jul 17, 2021 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by varicha
Thanks BSHORT, had a diesel. I really want the new 7.3. My build is a F250 4x4 Platinum. One a 1to1 comparison, do you think the ride quality would be the same?
There is a 700 lb difference between the 7.3 and the 6.7 motor. With everything being equal besides the motor itself, based on weight alone I would say that the diesel would have a better ride quality. Saying that, I have never even laid hands on a SD with the 7.3, let alone ride in one, but I have put 4000 miles in a pretty basic XLT with the 6.7. I remember when I picked it up from the rental company I immediately noticed how rough it rode... to be fair I also came from a platinum trim Pathfinder... so there's that. But, after a little time in the SD I grew accustomed to the ride and didn't find it to be terrible, just not what I was used to.


 
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Old Jul 17, 2021 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by crewzer
The 3.73 axle is probably a generally good compromise between the 3.55 and the 4.30. Note the new 10-speed AT had a very deep first gear (4.615).

The differences in the rear suspensions are significant. The standard F-250 rear suspension is three leaves per side rated at 6340 lbs. GAWR, and the standard F-350 SRW 4x4 rear suspension with 18” or 20” wheels is five leaves (four plus one six per side) rated at 7230 lbs. GAWR. The F-350’s rear spring first stage deflection rate is a bit higher, so it’s expect the lightly loaded ride to bit somewhat more firm.

However, for mountain towing and the possibility of a fifth wheel, The F-350 7.3 4.30 may be the real solution.

The 3.55 and 3.73 axles are Sterling, and the F-350 SRW 4.30 axle is a Dana. I don’t know about the F-250 7.3 4.30.

HTH,
Jim / crewzer
F250 4.30 also Dana.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2021 | 01:13 PM
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If you plan on the Elocker the 3.73 F350 is only $800 more.

As far as ride adjust the TPMS down and drop the psi.
 
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