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I am ordering a 2022 f250 with 7.3 liter gas. I will occasionally tow a 8000 lbs travel trailer. I don’t know which gear ratio to choose, 4.30 or 3.55. I was thinking 4.30 to have more power in low gear but I don’t want to have poor mpg.I pull the trailer thru the Sierra mountains. 7% grade.
Is 4.30s overkill for a 8000 lb trailer? Would 3.55 be adequate for the pull comfortably?
I thank you in advance for your experienced comments.
Thanks I’m taking your advice as I was leaning that way. I recently sold my 2015 with the power stroke. I’ll miss the torque but not the DPF problems. Looking forward to the 7.3.
3'55's will easily pull 8,000 lbs. Ford wouldn't offer it if it wouldn't.
People forget they have a transmission sometimes, it will be one gear lower on the hills and the only time it matters is in 10th gear. so just deal with it. . I pulled overloaded goosenecks through the mountains with a 390 with a 3 speed auto with 3.55 gears for many thousands of miles for years . but a new '7.3 with a 10 speed won't cut it ? I think it will.
If you were towing heavy loads a lot I could see lower gears otherwise the higher gears are better in every way. so just get a diesel if you tow that much.
From various internet sources the difference between 3.55 and 4.30's is about 1 mpg. With my research (see the 7.3 section of this forum), you can easily get 16.7 mpg or higher if you slow down to 55 mph over 70+. My pulling mpg on a 5000+ mile trip to Vegas and back pulling 7000 lbs, at 65 mph, was 11 mpg with the 7.3,4.30's, SCLB 4x4 on 33's.
Since my build will not go in production for a few months, I have time to change. The gear ration is my concern, I want the low end power of 4.30 and the lower RPM in 10th with the 3.55. I may split the difference and change my order to a F-350 with 3.73 gears. This may solve my problem and give me room to upgrade my TT to a 5th W.
Anyone know if there is a ride height difference and a suspension ride difference between the two?
Since my build will not go in production for a few months, I have time to change. The gear ration is my concern, I want the low end power of 4.30 and the lower RPM in 10th with the 3.55. I may split the difference and change my order to a F-350 with 3.73 gears. This may solve my problem and give me room to upgrade my TT to a 5th W.
Anyone know if there is a ride height difference and a suspension ride difference between the two?
Too many variables, like cab config, engine selection and options. A 250 CCLB diesel would ride nicer than a 350 reg cab 6.2 with plow/camper prep.
Thanks BSHORT, had a diesel. I really want the new 7.3. My build is a F250 4x4 Platinum. One a 1to1 comparison, do you think the ride quality would be the same?
Since my build will not go in production for a few months, I have time to change. The gear ration is my concern, I want the low end power of 4.30 and the lower RPM in 10th with the 3.55. I may split the difference and change my order to a F-350 with 3.73 gears. This may solve my problem and give me room to upgrade my TT to a 5th W.
Anyone know if there is a ride height difference and a suspension ride difference between the two?
The 3.73 axle is probably a generally good compromise between the 3.55 and the 4.30. Note the new 10-speed AT had a very deep first gear (4.615).
The differences in the rear suspensions are significant. The standard F-250 rear suspension is three leaves per side rated at 6340 lbs. GAWR, and the standard F-350 SRW 4x4 rear suspension with 18” or 20” wheels is five leaves (four plus one six per side) rated at 7230 lbs. GAWR. The F-350’s rear spring first stage deflection rate is a bit higher, so it’s expect the lightly loaded ride to bit somewhat more firm.
However, for mountain towing and the possibility of a fifth wheel, The F-350 7.3 4.30 may be the real solution.
The 3.55 and 3.73 axles are Sterling, and the F-350 SRW 4.30 axle is a Dana. I don’t know about the F-250 7.3 4.30.
Since my build will not go in production for a few months, I have time to change. The gear ration is my concern, I want the low end power of 4.30 and the lower RPM in 10th with the 3.55. I may split the difference and change my order to a F-350 with 3.73 gears. This may solve my problem and give me room to upgrade my TT to a 5th W.
Anyone know if there is a ride height difference and a suspension ride difference between the two?
Originally Posted by varicha
Thanks BSHORT, had a diesel. I really want the new 7.3. My build is a F250 4x4 Platinum. One a 1to1 comparison, do you think the ride quality would be the same?
If everything was the same, except the engine, they should be pretty close in ride.
Since my build will not go in production for a few months, I have time to change. The gear ration is my concern, I want the low end power of 4.30 and the lower RPM in 10th with the 3.55. I may split the difference and change my order to a F-350 with 3.73 gears. This may solve my problem and give me room to upgrade my TT to a 5th W.
Anyone know if there is a ride height difference and a suspension ride difference between the two?
Had a 250 with 3.55 order but wanted little lower gearing. So changed to a 350 with 3.73s. I dropped adaptive steering kept the price about the same.
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Thanks BSHORT, had a diesel. I really want the new 7.3. My build is a F250 4x4 Platinum. One a 1to1 comparison, do you think the ride quality would be the same?
There is a 700 lb difference between the 7.3 and the 6.7 motor. With everything being equal besides the motor itself, based on weight alone I would say that the diesel would have a better ride quality. Saying that, I have never even laid hands on a SD with the 7.3, let alone ride in one, but I have put 4000 miles in a pretty basic XLT with the 6.7. I remember when I picked it up from the rental company I immediately noticed how rough it rode... to be fair I also came from a platinum trim Pathfinder... so there's that. But, after a little time in the SD I grew accustomed to the ride and didn't find it to be terrible, just not what I was used to.
The 3.73 axle is probably a generally good compromise between the 3.55 and the 4.30. Note the new 10-speed AT had a very deep first gear (4.615).
The differences in the rear suspensions are significant. The standard F-250 rear suspension is three leaves per side rated at 6340 lbs. GAWR, and the standard F-350 SRW 4x4 rear suspension with 18” or 20” wheels is five leaves (four plus one six per side) rated at 7230 lbs. GAWR. The F-350’s rear spring first stage deflection rate is a bit higher, so it’s expect the lightly loaded ride to bit somewhat more firm.
However, for mountain towing and the possibility of a fifth wheel, The F-350 7.3 4.30 may be the real solution.
The 3.55 and 3.73 axles are Sterling, and the F-350 SRW 4.30 axle is a Dana. I don’t know about the F-250 7.3 4.30.
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