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Old May 23, 2021 | 09:42 AM
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Intake heat bypass diaphragm

Anyone know if this is repairable? Mine won't hold vacuum. I know its kind of a weird thing but I'm trying to factoryish
 
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Old May 23, 2021 | 12:05 PM
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No, But new ones were available back in the day...and it may still be available try calling the dealer part number CX-898
https://www.ebay.com/p/1155898731
https://www.ebay.com/p/1168411156

 
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Yup still available new
https://www.rockauto.com/en/parts/mo...gm+motor,10207
 
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Old May 23, 2021 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by matthewq4b
Originally Posted by matthewq4b
No, But new ones were available back in the day...and it may still be available try calling the dealer part number CX-898
https://www.ebay.com/p/1155898731
https://www.ebay.com/p/1168411156

Freaking sweet guys thanks
 
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Old May 23, 2021 | 05:48 PM
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That piece will be important if you drive your truck in the winter where it gets cold. I see you live in CA. It gets cold in some places correct? That is considered part of the emissions system, but it sure makes it run better in the winter.
 
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That piece will be important if you drive your truck in the winter where it gets cold. I see you live in CA. It gets cold in some places correct? That is considered part of the emissions system, but it sure makes it run better in the winter.
yeah I'm in the bay area doesn't get cold cold, coldest iv ever seen it was 28 degrees. But that was a wild winter. Usually only gets down to 38-45 . But I'm wondering if that plus a better carb/ choke adjustment will help with cold starts.


now does anyone have a part number for the thermal valve the warm air diverter uses for vacuum?
 
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This dohicky. Ford calls it a bi metal switch but searching that gets nothing
 
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nvm wrong part
 
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Originally Posted by ctubutis
nvm wrong part
tested it with a lighter. Still works . How well I donno lol
 
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If you find a new vacuum switch, or try to get the old one working, I found out it matters which port is the vacuum source and which port goes to the actuator. If you get them backwards, it will activate the flapper valve and never release it. When it's right, it will actually modulate the valve in midway positions also, it's more than a switch.

They usually put a doo-hickey in the line to the actuator also. I am not sure, but I am thinking this is a orifice to keep the valve somewhat steady if you dog the engine and the vacuum source goes high and then low. Not sure how important that would be.
 
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Originally Posted by Franklin2
If you find a new vacuum switch, or try to get the old one working, I found out it matters which port is the vacuum source and which port goes to the actuator. If you get them backwards, it will activate the flapper valve and never release it. When it's right, it will actually modulate the valve in midway positions also, it's more than a switch.

They usually put a doo-hickey in the line to the actuator also. I am not sure, but I am thinking this is a orifice to keep the valve somewhat steady if you dog the engine and the vacuum source goes high and then low. Not sure how important that would be.
Thanks for the replies everyone . I decided im just gonna run one to help out with cold start. Built this guy . Gotta get a intake cleaner housing riser and I'm going to relocate the oil cap breather filter to the rear of the cleaner housing. Replacing stuff as I go about it

 
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Yall think this style would work in replacement of the other style?

 
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IIRC, that is the exact part for an 83 4.9. I can't think why it would be different in other engines.

Are you planning on running both actuators/motors from one of those regulators? If so, it will probably be fine initially and when warm, but the intermediate positions may be less than optimal. This is because there is a calibrated leak in the system to get one flapper "just right" at mid range temperatures. Add a second motor, and the balance will change.

Your winters are similar to ours here in Houston. I doubt my truck stays fully open for more than 5 minutes, and it probably has minimal impact after that.
 
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Originally Posted by FlyJSH
IIRC, that is the exact part for an 83 4.9. I can't think why it would be different in other engines.

Are you planning on running both actuators/motors from one of those regulators? If so, it will probably be fine initially and when warm, but the intermediate positions may be less than optimal. This is because there is a calibrated leak in the system to get one flapper "just right" at mid range temperatures. Add a second motor, and the balance will change.

I have an 80 and I'm pretty sure my valve is just a open when cold closed when hot. And that's all I really need it to do. I put my new warm air bypass on and im not getting enough vacuum to close it. I'm assuming cuz the bimetal valve isn't functioning properly or is just clogged.
 
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Mine also doesn't have a metering valve in line with the vaccume hose from the actuator to the switch
 
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