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I have a 17000 lb on a cradle, fits in toolbox with accessories, heavy duty 2.5” receiver on front, advantage no extra weight hanging of front of truck 99% off time.
Frank.
When i was researching winches i had read the 1.5 X vehicle weight suggestion is the minimum for smaller vehicles like Jeeps. The article suggested 2.0 X vehicle weight for heavier/full size vehicles. A reg cab/8'bed would get by with a 12K winch, but if it was a crew cab/8' bed I'd be wanting a 15K minimum. I've bought enough throw away/junk tools from Harbor freight that you couldn't pay me to put one of there winches on my truck. If it's anything like their 120V power tools it'll burst into flames once under load. Warn or Smittybuilt.
I have a 17000 lb on a cradle, fits in toolbox with accessories, heavy duty 2.5” receiver on front, advantage no extra weight hanging of front of truck 99% off time.
Frank.
Two questions:
1. What brand and model # is your 17,000 lb winch?
2. What do you eat? You've got to be one big burly dude to toss around a 17,000 lb rated winch on a cradle.
Originally Posted by speedfreak78
When i was researching winches i had read the 1.5 X vehicle weight suggestion is the minimum for smaller vehicles like Jeeps. The article suggested 2.0 X vehicle weight for heavier/full size vehicles. A reg cab/8'bed would get by with a 12K winch, but if it was a crew cab/8' bed I'd be wanting a 15K minimum. I've bought enough throw away/junk tools from Harbor freight that you couldn't pay me to put one of there winches on my truck. If it's anything like their 120V power tools it'll burst into flames once under load. Warn or Smittybuilt.
I agree on the 2x rating being more appropriate, since the rating itself is dependent on the number of wraps around the drum, and is advertised as the max effort, which isn't usually where the cable might happen to be on the spool when actual winching is required.
The problem is the availability of winches that are 2x rated. Hence the interest in @slownsy 's 17,000 lb. winch... which still wouldn't be winch enough for an 10.000 lb truck at a 2x rating. I'm aware of Warn's 16.5ti winch, but beyond that, one has to delve into the tow truck / tilt bed / wrecker body commercial line of winches to get into 18K and above rated winches, many of which are hydraulic, and most of which are significantly heavier than the light pickup and off-road products.
It is a Sherpa Steed, a Australian built winch, with a rope only 23 kg, I am a retired 68 year old pensioner with a bad back, but I can still handle that, it is mounted on a 17000 lbs rated cradle with a 2.5” sleeve welded to it, for fitting my 2.5” build front hitch to copy the original Ford rear hitch.
Frank.
It is a Sherpa Steed, a Australian built winch, with a rope only 23 kg, I am a retired 68 year old pensioner with a bad back, but I can still handle that, it is mounted on a 17000 lbs rated cradle with a 2.5” sleeve welded to it, for fitting my 2.5” build front hitch to copy the original Ford rear hitch.
Frank.
Wow. I'll bet I'm not alone in wanting to see some pics from down unda the front of the truck to see your 2.5" front hitch.
I won't doubt the aussie again. I was like no freakin way a 17k winch can weigh 23kg or 50 lbs, but sure as crap. The cradle is probably another 10-20 lbs I'll bet. But 70 lbs is still sort of manageable for most. a 18k from HF is 158 lbs alone. Comes at a price, 1050 for the base of this model
For what it is worth I have had a Harbor Freight Badlands winch on my 2000 F-150. Only periodic use but has never failed me. As for the WARN made in USA comments, here is a statement from WARN in 2018.
Warn VR winches are manufactured and assembled overseas; all other Warn truck winches are assembled in the U.S. from globally sourced parts. According to Warn itself there are no more 100% "made in U.S.A." Warn winches.
What year is that truck? Who fabricated the winch mount, plate steel to the front cross members? Is that a custom job? Looks like a set up from "Matts Off Road Recovery" on You Tube.....
PJ
The truck is 2015. I looked at how some of the of the others were made, and then designed this to be as close as possible to the Ford rear hitch for extra strength.
Frank.
I did a similar fabrication for my 2008 front receiver. I took a rear hitch and cut off ends. Had a fabricator cut two new end pieces to allow it to fit between the frame horns at front. Since I have gas engine and no intercooler I was able to fit it up very high.
I did the design, took to steel supply who punched the holes and cut the plates and tubes to my sizes, I supplied templates of side plates first done out of cardboard for size and hole placement, then cut out of sheets of thin sheet, the plates are 6mm or 1/4” tubes 2.5” internal like rear hitch wall thickness about 5mm from memory,I then had a welding shop do the welding together, The exterior tube welded to cradle about 5mm wall, I did have to grind this down some to fit in hitch but a lot better tight fit than the sloppy insert supplied for the 2” to 2.5” hitch.
Frank.
I’m running a Mile Marker 10k on a F350 and a Superwinch 9500 on a F250. I’ve used these winches fir years and I never had a issue.
moat winches made today are all
oretty good. Hell most of them are just rebranded and go through a different spray booths and sticker package. My other trucks all had mile marker and Warn winches. I got the Superwinch for free. Works fine. Pulled out a F250 that was stuck to the rocker panels.
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