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Old May 4, 2021 | 06:36 PM
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Compression Ratio

So I have a brand new set of .030 OS flat top pistons that I picked up, and back of the envelope calculations, if I used these, I'd be looking at 10:1 perhaps even 10.5:1 compression with most of the standard FE heads, my big question is, how likely are the FE's going to run into detonation/pinging issues at that sort of compression levels?
 
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Old May 4, 2021 | 07:40 PM
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How much static compression you can use with your fuel depends a lot on the camshaft that you're using as well as the RPM range where you're using the engine.
 
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Old May 4, 2021 | 07:43 PM
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This cam https://www.lunatipower.com/voodoo-h...8-250-256.html

Doubt I'll ever spin it much over 4000
 
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Old May 4, 2021 | 07:56 PM
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I think that it'll be too high with a cam that short. 218@.050 would probably be fine on a 108 centerline.
 
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Old May 4, 2021 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveMcLain
I think that it'll be too high with a cam that short. 218@.050 would probably be fine on a 108 centerline.
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Alrighty, I'll save the flattops for a Fairlane or something, I've got a good set of used. 030 over standard crown pistons I can use
 
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Old May 5, 2021 | 12:31 PM
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Don't forget, altitude will also affect compression. 3% drop for every 1000ft IIRC
 
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Old May 5, 2021 | 12:47 PM
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Yeah, I'm at sea level, that's not really a consideration here.
 
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Old May 5, 2021 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SFaulken
Yeah, I'm at sea level, that's not really a consideration here.

Lucky you. I'm at 5500'
 
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Old May 5, 2021 | 01:28 PM
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I'm running the Comp XE274H (230/236 @ 50; 562/565 lift, 110LSA, 106 ICL) with 2291F flat top pistons with C8AE-H heads at 200ft elevation no issues. The cam is installed straight up too. That Lunati is much more mild so I don't see why it'd have any problems. Calculate your dynamic compression and you could possibly install with whatever degree it needs. Unless I'm missing something
 
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Old May 5, 2021 | 01:42 PM
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I don't actually know how to calculate dynamic compression. Can you point me somewhere that explains it?
 
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I don't actually know how to calculate dynamic compression. Can you point me somewhere that explains it?
Wallace Racing: Dynamic Compression Ratio Calculator
 
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Old May 5, 2021 | 02:04 PM
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Ok, so with the existing D2TE heads, it looks like I'm looking at 10.386:1 static compression, if I went with the flat tops. How do i determine, based on the cam specs I have, how many degrees ABDC, the intake valve closes?
 
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Old May 5, 2021 | 02:09 PM
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Wallace Racing - Cam Degree Calculator

Wallace is my quick go to for dozens of engine formulas just to try to learn something or out of curiosity.
 
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Old May 5, 2021 | 02:28 PM
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Alright, so confirmed the D2TE are the heads that are on the engine currently in the truck, which using wallace's calculator, tells me I should have a dynamic compression ratio of 8.97:1. I've never really dealt with dynamic ratio before, so what does that mean to me, as far as being able to run it on regular old unleaded without having it detonate?
 
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Old May 5, 2021 | 03:26 PM
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Dynamic is measured off the intake closing which provides a much more accurate "reading" as to how a given cam will operate vs another cam in the same engine. Hence BIG cams specify a minimum static compression ratio to get the engine into "safe" ranges for available pump octanes. Cam timing and distributor timing plays a role as well but in much smaller increments in comparison to the cam characteristics themselves. Do a search on the topic for many more details.

Like I said before that Lunati cam you selected is fairly mild spec-wise and should run happily given proper oil and break in which is a whooooole other ball of wax.
 
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