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Old May 1, 2021 | 06:03 AM
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Onboard payload scales

This is interesting and a game changer for camper manufacturers with stated dry weights.
https://www.truckcampermagazine.com/news/ford-announces-onboard-payload-scales/?fbclid=IwAR0es-zVbXam_28O1lhN2UUGWQGurGi9d3x4EU6E3vYC3vJoFEZu_3QR 7sk
 
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Old May 1, 2021 | 08:23 AM
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I read that piece too. Not sure what to make out of it. Not sure whom it will impact most. If enforcement ever were enhanced, I could see it really stirring things up.

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Old May 3, 2021 | 03:05 PM
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Where they really need it is on the 3/4 and 1 ton trucks, not the half tons. Reason being is most of the questions I see from guys, at least those with truck campers, pertain to being able to carry X camper with Y truck that is a 3/4 ton and some 1 tons.
I don't see a lot of value having that capability on a half ton but maybe I am not seeing the whole picture.
 
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Old May 3, 2021 | 03:25 PM
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I thought about this too. Maybe test the waters in a category where the issue is almost irrelevant before unleashing it on folks who had a real interest in it. Maybe?

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Old May 3, 2021 | 09:08 PM
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Cool tech, but I'm not paying $650 for it.
 
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Old May 8, 2021 | 08:46 AM
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So you get it, throw on that Mega Truck Camper and you are over 2000 lbs over payload, but ok you air bagged it and the rear bumper no long drags the highway. Your brakes are up to the taks and you slide thru a stoplight hitting another car. You get sued not for being overweight, but for KNOWINGLY driving over weight, you lose bit time.

Run from that option!
 
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Old May 8, 2021 | 09:11 AM
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One of the things that I find interesting with this option is wondering why now and why in F150s to start with. I know Ford has to figure there is a profit upside or they would not go ahead with it, but it is based on end user requests, the possibility of linking warranty coverage to hauling history? Just kind of a question mark.
 
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Old May 8, 2021 | 12:55 PM
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One of the things that I find interesting with this option is wondering why now and why in F150s to start with. I know Ford has to figure there is a profit upside or they would not go ahead with it, but it is based on end user requests, the possibility of linking warranty coverage to hauling history? Just kind of a question mark.
I'm more cynical. I see it as a cut'em off at the pass scenario. Ford is pushing the limits well beyond the capabilities of the physics constraints of the trucks these days. With payload monitoring system they can avoid ALL liability by claiming "the truck was overloaded, our advertising and ideal conditions claims are not the cause"
They push this as a cool option, make us pay for the research and tweaking, then make it standard a week before Biden and crowd introduce new laws
a whole new market for delete'ers
 
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How do you mean "Ford is pushing the limits well beyond the capabilities of the physics constraints of the trucks these days."? I see owners doing it, but I don't see how Ford is pushing anything. They are pretty clear about their payload limits, tire and axle limits, and combined weight rating. If the truck was within their published limits and something failed there could be an issue of liability.

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Old May 8, 2021 | 05:42 PM
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How do you mean "Ford is pushing the limits well beyond the capabilities of the physics constraints of the trucks these days."? I see owners doing it, but I don't see how Ford is pushing anything. They are pretty clear about their payload limits, tire and axle limits, and combined weight rating. If the truck was within their published limits and something failed there could be an issue of liability.

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if we start from the point that many people are not as smart as they think they are, and see the advertising for the F150 and ignore the very small fine print on the bottom of the screen, the towing and payload specs are not conducive to being realistic. Most of us daily see over loaded trucks pulling and hauling stuff. All the manufactures leave real payload and tow weights for us to figure out and many do not bother. Whether this is more the fault of the big 3 or the ignorance of the consumer is debatable. As I am not a big fan of government, consumers need to educate themselves, but they won't. I'm no physicist, but I would venture that just because any given truck has the power to pull or haul, does not necessarily mean that it has the weight or physical capabilities to do so with these every increasing claims.
I see this as a clever ploy by Ford to be able to say empathically "well the integrated weighing system indicates that you were over capacity by X pounds" then the hammer falls and judge says "case dismissed"
 
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Clever ploy? Are any manufacturers getting nicked for someone overloading their vehicles? Why would any manufacturer need to incorporate this into their systems? Maybe it's just a logical step in the motor vehicle industry to help "make life better' for us consumers. Let's see now AUTO door locks, windows, headlights, seat memory, parking, backing up, air and heat controls, oh yeah I almost forgot actually driving the car for us by itself. Pretty soon we won't even need to be in the vehicle or we can sleep or whatever. My first car didn't have anything automatic, go figure you had to actually participate in the driving process to make it work. I think they went with the F150's is because it's the hot seller these days. More $$$$. Like Joe Pesci said " It's all about the dollars"
 
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Old May 8, 2021 | 07:33 PM
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I agree money is the end game. Just wondering if this is a feature buyers will care about. Maybe. Guess we will just have to wait to see.
 
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I can see it if you are a delivery driver and charge by the pound....... but they are a micro small market segment.
$650USD...Thanks, I'll go to my free local weight scale. Once with the truck, once with the truck and empty camper and a third time ready to travel with all our usual stuff for a week long trip. Not much changes otherwise so I wouldn't feel the need to constantly know the minute by minute weight.
But for those obsessive compulsive folks that need to have it all, it's candy.
 
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