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Old Apr 16, 2021 | 02:29 PM
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I hate people (Thieves)

Well it happened again. Been over 10 plus years since the truck was broken into on a job site and it happened again this Monday. Broad daylight in a gym parking lot in a very nice area of town(yes I know thieves target those places) but its something that just slips your mind after a while and you don't even think about. Spare me the lecture lol... I know.. I know... I know..

Now we all know how easy it is to beak into these trucks, flat head screw driver and little leverage and your in the truck in less than 30seconds. The guys knew what they were doing, and just like 10 years ago, were fast, in and out and down the road purchasing things on my cards at walmart.... Only thing they grabbed was my "oh Sh##" gun bag that had my wallet, and ar pistol and spare keys(about $5,000 in losses) "well why the hell did you have that in your truck?"... well ill tell you lol.. I have my g43 on me always but we have projects around Atlanta in some bad areas, bad like Bankhead, College Park and places that aint too fun, and with everything going on in todays world, if sh## went south real quick, I want something bigger to make me feel all warm and cozy.. okay okay lol..

That being said, is there really any security systems out there for our trucks that actually work? Like the small cameras you can put in the trucks or anything? I have the "NO start" function on the hydra but as far as an alarm system, camera, how we looking?
 
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Old Apr 16, 2021 | 02:45 PM
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These look like they would work pretty good.

https://www.riffraffdiesel.com/jimmi...EaAq8mEALw_wcB
 
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Old Apr 16, 2021 | 02:58 PM
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I had no idea!!
 
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Old Apr 16, 2021 | 04:29 PM
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yes that does suck and there is absolutely no reason for theft other then laziness!


thats a damn good idea! i like that link.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2021 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by RocketStrappedTURTLE
Well it happened again. Been over 10 plus years since the truck was broken into on a job site and it happened again this Monday. Broad daylight in a gym parking lot in a very nice area of town(yes I know thieves target those places) but its something that just slips your mind after a while and you don't even think about. Spare me the lecture lol... I know.. I know... I know..

Now we all know how easy it is to beak into these trucks, flat head screw driver and little leverage and your in the truck in less than 30seconds. The guys knew what they were doing, and just like 10 years ago, were fast, in and out and down the road purchasing things on my cards at walmart.... Only thing they grabbed was my "oh Sh##" gun bag that had my wallet, and ar pistol and spare keys(about $5,000 in losses) "well why the hell did you have that in your truck?"... well ill tell you lol.. I have my g43 on me always but we have projects around Atlanta in some bad areas, bad like Bankhead, College Park and places that aint too fun, and with everything going on in todays world, if sh## went south real quick, I want something bigger to make me feel all warm and cozy.. okay okay lol..

That being said, is there really any security systems out there for our trucks that actually work? Like the small cameras you can put in the trucks or anything? I have the "NO start" function on the hydra but as far as an alarm system, camera, how we looking?
You frequent some rough neighborhoods, no need to explain anything. Any chance you had a GPS tracker on your bag? I believe some of the high-end remote starts/car alarms will alert you if the car is been tampered with and have proximity alarms.

Couple suggestions, if they have your wallet they have your address. Keep that in mind as far as home security.
Since they took a firearm it’s a felony, that should encourage the police to actually investigate and follow up with tips. I keep my AR behind the rear seat and have a lock box there also. I have a screaming padlock that I lock on the case if I leave my weapons in the truck. If the lock is disturbed it chirps once or twice and then 130 dB alarm goes off. Thieves don’t like attention being drawn to them...
I also have a tracker hidden inside the fabric/foam...you can run but I’ll find you it will not end well.

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Hopefully they’ll be caught quickly.


 

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Old Apr 17, 2021 | 04:58 AM
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@ColoradoF350 John, got a link to where one can buy that screaming padlock? I'm a ******* for not clicking on Amazon links first. Do you have to disarm it first before driving off or does that not trigger the alarm?
 

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Old Apr 17, 2021 | 05:31 AM
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Since they took a firearm it’s a felony, that should encourage the police to actually investigate and follow up with tips.

Hopefully they’ll be caught quickly.
They (50 aka Five-Oh) will do absolutely nothing, they 🚔 will merely hope the felon is dumb enough to sell the firearm at a Pawn shop or that it turns up at some other crime scene. If the firearm turns up at a crime scene it will be in the evidence locker until the perp doesn't show up at trial and then the firearm will be destroyed by people that "know better" are gun grabbers.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2021 | 07:46 AM
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I have to agree with Mark, nothing will be done by the police, even if you provide them the approximate location of the stolen items.

If you go and hunt them down, well be ready to defend yourself in court. GA has very strong castle and self defense laws, but with the tide changing in this nation you being the "hunter" or "aggressor" in that situation, you will need A LOT of money for a good defense attorney.

Play that scenario out in your head a moment...

You: Found location to be in the suspected neighborhood of the thief.
You: Decide to drive to neighborhood with another firearm that was not stolen and demand your items back.
Thief: FU, come and get it.
You: Option 1 - Call police with little to no response.
Option 2 - or go and get it.
You: If second option is chosen, prepare to be on the news and hauled off to jail shortly after you reclaimed (or not) your stolen items.

I saw a headline the other night where an active duty soldier in ACU's was being arrested on charges of harassment and assault because he tried to remove a couple of "thugs" from his neighborhood. The soldier only used words and followed the "thugs" until they approached him and the solider pushed one of them. A push that was not even severe enough to knock the "thug" down. Just moved him back a couple of steps.

Now, that soldier's career and lifestyle is in jeopardy and the he is being called a racist and assaulting "people" that were doing nothing wrong except "walking while black". I don't know what nationality the solider is, but I can take a guess...

Imagine if you went to the home or the hang out of the thief looking for your items...

Come on, let's be smart about this.

The best deterrent against thieves is good insurance. Claim your items as a loss, get new cards and ID's and go on. I am not condoning that what they did was/is right, but you have to play this thing smart.

Years ago we had a couple of "thugs" try to steal my motorcycle out of the garage in the middle of the night. I held the one left that didn't run when the lights came on at gun point until the deputy arrived 45 minutes later. I told the would be thief I would not shoot him in the back, but if he tried to run I would let my doberman out to "pee" and she runs a lot faster than he does. I also told him that if he tried anything stupid, I will kill him dead and sleep in my own bed. My military/deployment hostile environment training was of great use that night, at my home.

Turns out the guy had several priors including assault on a police officer. He was out on probation for another breaking and entering charge and he got 20 years in prison with a minimum of 10 to serve.

That is why when I read about people talking about "go ballistic" I shake my head because it is very obvious they have never been in a life threatening situation with a firearm. They think it is a joke and "fun". If a firearm is involved, decisions have to be made, split decisions at times otherwise the defending party becomes the criminal very quickly. Training and "tactical" training are good and I am in full support of that as you MUST be comfortable with your firearms, but you must also know the legal side and lawful side of the right and ability to own, posses and use a firearm.

The military has laws and rules as well, it is not a "free fire zone" and you can believe you will be held accountable for your actions if you break those laws or deviate from those rules.

Also, when the target is something other than a piece of steel or paper, that changes everything. Regardless if the target is a POS thief or not, they are still a human being and have a family that may or may not come after you in a civil suit. Know the law, know your skill and cut your losses if you are not 100% sure.

That is my .02... Do with it what you like.
 

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Old Apr 17, 2021 | 12:18 PM
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Like some of the guys said let it be.
You guy's are being targeted now by crazed people of your ethnicity.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2021 | 01:02 PM
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I have to agree with Mark, nothing will be done by the police, even if you provide them the approximate location of the stolen items.

If you go and hunt them down, well be ready to defend yourself in court. GA has very strong castle and self defense laws, but with the tide changing in this nation you being the "hunter" or "aggressor" in that situation, you will need A LOT of money for a good defense attorney.

Play that scenario out in your head a moment...

You: Found location to be in the suspected neighborhood of the thief.
You: Decide to drive to neighborhood with another firearm that was not stolen and demand your items back.
Thief: FU, come and get it.
You: Option 1 - Call police with little to no response.
Option 2 - or go and get it.
You: If second option is chosen, prepare to be on the news and hauled off to jail shortly after you reclaimed (or not) your stolen items.

I saw a headline the other night where an active duty soldier in ACU's was being arrested on charges of harassment and assault because he tried to remove a couple of "thugs" from his neighborhood. The soldier only used words and followed the "thugs" until they approached him and the solider pushed one of them. A push that was not even severe enough to knock the "thug" down. Just moved him back a couple of steps.

Now, that soldier's career and lifestyle is in jeopardy and the he is being called a racist and assaulting "people" that were doing nothing wrong except "walking while black". I don't know what nationality the solider is, but I can take a guess...

Imagine if you went to the home or the hang out of the thief looking for your items...

Come on, let's be smart about this.

The best deterrent against thieves is good insurance. Claim your items as a loss, get new cards and ID's and go on. I am not condoning that what they did was/is right, but you have to play this thing smart.

Years ago we had a couple of "thugs" try to steal my motorcycle out of the garage in the middle of the night. I held the one left that didn't run when the lights came on at gun point until the deputy arrived 45 minutes later. I told the would be thief I would not shoot him in the back, but if he tried to run I would let my doberman out to "pee" and she runs a lot faster than he does. I also told him that if he tried anything stupid, I will kill him dead and sleep in my own bed. My military/deployment hostile environment training was of great use that night, at my home.

Turns out the guy had several priors including assault on a police officer. He was out on probation for another breaking and entering charge and he got 20 years in prison with a minimum of 10 to serve.

That is why when I read about people talking about "go ballistic" I shake my head because it is very obvious they have never been in a life threatening situation with a firearm. They think it is a joke and "fun". If a firearm is involved, decisions have to be made, split decisions at times otherwise the defending party becomes the criminal very quickly. Training and "tactical" training are good and I am in full support of that as you MUST be comfortable with your firearms, but you must also know the legal side and lawful side of the right and ability to own, posses and use a firearm.

The military has laws and rules as well, it is not a "free fire zone" and you can believe you will be held accountable for your actions if you break those laws or deviate from those rules.

Also, when the target is something other than a piece of steel or paper, that changes everything. Regardless if the target is a POS thief or not, they are still a human being and have a family that may or may not come after you in a civil suit. Know the law, know your skill and cut your losses if you are not 100% sure.

That is my .02... Do with it what you like.
Well said my friend. We now more than ever live in a world we're right is not always right and wrong is not always wrong according to those in charge and those that scream the loudest.

better to cut the losses and live to fight another day
 
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Old Apr 17, 2021 | 02:56 PM
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@ColoradoF350 John, got a link to where one can buy that screaming padlock? I'm a ******* for not clicking on Amazon links first. Do you have to disarm it first before driving off or does that not trigger the alarm?
I don’t leave it locked while driving if it bounces around it goes off. I had one on my previous trailer, around 3am one morning I heard it going off in my yard. Someone had attempted to cut it off and steal the trailer when it started screaming they ran off leaving their bolt cutters by the trailer.

Originally Posted by mecdac
They (50 aka Five-Oh) will do absolutely nothing, they 🚔 will merely hope the felon is dumb enough to sell the firearm at a Pawn shop or that it turns up at some other crime scene. If the firearm turns up at a crime scene it will be in the evidence locker until the perp doesn't show up at trial and then the firearm will be destroyed by people that "know better" are gun grabbers.
‘I wasn’t implying that they will organize a special task force to look for it but they give a stolen firearm special attention over say a laptop. A buddy had a Grand Cherokee stolen years ago that had a handgun in it. He got both back in 3 days because they actually cared about getting them recovered and off the street. It also depends on the city you live in...
 
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Old Apr 17, 2021 | 03:07 PM
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That tile thing looks like bluetooth for finding stuff in your house.

If they used credit cards at Walmart, shouldn't they be on video?
 
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Old Apr 17, 2021 | 07:01 PM
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That tile thing looks like bluetooth for finding stuff in your house.

If they used credit cards at Walmart, shouldn't they be on video?

That does alot of good more than half the time their systems are not working!
 
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Old Apr 18, 2021 | 11:45 AM
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Like most of you said the gun is gone and prob ain’t coming back lol. They have all the pics/serial number and accessories.The investigator was going to Walmart to look at the cameras since he has the exact time times of the purchase and the price but I haven’t heard a word back.

Right now around Atlanta and the county, the 03-04 f250/f350s, 99-07 are the most targeted/stolen. They steal the truck then rip an ATM out of the ground, throw it in the back then dump the truck.

There was a chase and officer involved shooting that morning mine was broken into with another auto/theft/firearm crew.

Anybody have any good luck with those lockboxes?
 
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Old Apr 18, 2021 | 10:39 PM
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As to the lockboxes they are only as good as your ability to remember to use and lock them every time, and the quality of cable and lock being used to attach it inside the truck. My dad had 2 Hornady's fail. He couldn't unlock it one day, seems like it was a couple months past the warranty after a year or more of use. He called and asked about how he could get his gun out. Guy on the phone basically said there wasn't a way he knew of since the lock or bolts failed internally somehow, but if he could send it in they'd send him a replacement. Challenge accepted

5 seconds of work later he had taken a porta band and cut clear across the end with the hinge after making sure to shake it super hard to ensure the gun was at other end. Box still stayed locked tight. He shipped them in the 2 pieces and they sent him a new "updated" replacement
 
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