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Old Apr 7, 2021 | 09:24 AM
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No brakes before starting

Recently my 06 F150 has started to have no brakes before starting the engine. By no brakes, I mean that the booster is very stiff, like there's no residual pressure. Truck is a manual transmission so if my parking brake isn't set very tight it will start to roll forward until the engine starts. Seems to do fine after starting it. As soon as engine fires I have the booster back. Does this mean the booster is going bad? Check valve?
 
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Old Apr 8, 2021 | 08:13 AM
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Does this mean the booster is going bad? Check valve?
The vacuum is leaking out of the booster, so yes, it's one or the other.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2021 | 08:19 AM
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I went to Napa yesterday to see if they had a check valve and they didn't list one. Is that something that can be changed separate on this truck or is it made into the booster?
 
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Old Apr 8, 2021 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by idealtrucks
I went to Napa yesterday to see if they had a check valve and they didn't list one. Is that something that can be changed separate on this truck or is it made into the booster?
It's a dealer item, assuming it's still available.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2021 | 08:37 AM
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Ah, ok. I'll try the dealer and see what they say.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2021 | 10:29 AM
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Get one from the local pick-a-part salvage yard.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2021 | 01:33 PM
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Dealer doesn't list one. Don't have a junkyard close to try.
Does anyone know if a generic checkvalve like this would work?
https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/...189/22143797-p
 
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Old Apr 8, 2021 | 06:03 PM
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Try it. You might have a leak elsewhere, so some "experimenting" with vacuum retention may be in order.

 
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Old Apr 8, 2021 | 06:37 PM
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Trying to wrap my head around why anyone would need power brakes on on a vehicle they haven't even started. I apologize if my query is unusual.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2021 | 07:51 PM
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Depending on how quickly the OP loses the vacuum, it could be an issue that should be addressed. Or not. He says it is a recent change, which would lead me down the "problem" route...

 
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Old Apr 9, 2021 | 07:26 AM
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Trying to wrap my head around why anyone would need power brakes on on a vehicle they haven't even started. I apologize if my query is unusual.
If I'm parked on a hill and the parking brake isn't set quite as tight as it should be, the truck will start rolling when the clutch is pressed.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2021 | 09:20 AM
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If I'm parked on a hill and the parking brake isn't set quite as tight as it should be, the truck will start rolling when the clutch is pressed.
That's normal, set the parking brake tighter.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2021 | 09:39 AM
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Yeah, I've been making sure it's set especially tight now, but for the past 14 years it hasn't done that, so I'm assuming something is going wrong. My f250 can sit for months and not do it
I'll try a universal check valve and see what happens
 
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Originally Posted by RLXXI
Trying to wrap my head around why anyone would need power brakes on on a vehicle they haven't even started. I apologize if my query is unusual.
Because if it's not holding vacuum, then it is potentially a vacuum leak which in turn will effect the correct operation of the engine. Not to mention that if the leak is due to a rupture in the booster diaphragm the problem will get worse over time.
 
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