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Old Mar 5, 2021 | 07:58 PM
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Does anyone have any idea why my truck refuses to start? I have an 86 f350 with the 460. I just replaced the alternator and the starter. It has a new battery but I have to jump it to get it to start. It turns over and then makes a grinding noise and it gets weaker and weaker. I jumped the solenoid and it clicks like it's supposed to. I've checked all the wires and they all look good.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2021 | 08:39 PM
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Before changing any more parts, pour yourself some coffee and peruse this. It was written specifically for your situation:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...w-starter.html

Make sure the battery is fully charged before any testing. Most new batteries are not fully charged at the time of sale. I suggest hooking up an automatic charger overnight, something with at least a ten amp output. A trickle charger won't cut it.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2021 | 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Jluna126
Does anyone have any idea why my truck refuses to start? I have an 86 f350 with the 460. I just replaced the alternator and the starter. It has a new battery but I have to jump it to get it to start. It turns over and then makes a grinding noise and it gets weaker and weaker. I jumped the solenoid and it clicks like it's supposed to. I've checked all the wires and they all look good.
Why was the starter Alt and Battery replaced in the first place?


 
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Old Mar 6, 2021 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Jluna126
Does anyone have any idea why my truck refuses to start? I have an 86 f350 with the 460. I just replaced the alternator and the starter. It has a new battery but I have to jump it to get it to start. It turns over and then makes a grinding noise and it gets weaker and weaker. I jumped the solenoid and it clicks like it's supposed to. I've checked all the wires and they all look good.
You can take your battery to the store and get it checked.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2021 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by matthewq4b
Why was the starter Alt and Battery replaced in the first place?
Because they were shot. I had them both tested
 
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Old Mar 6, 2021 | 09:36 AM
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Just saying every now and then one get a bad battery that is new.

Do you have a volt meter ? Harbor Fright has free ones sometimes. I think I have three of them around the house and sheds.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2021 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Jluna126
Because they were shot. I had them both tested
And the starter?
 
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Old Mar 6, 2021 | 09:59 AM
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Can you give us more background on this truck, did you just buy the truck or have you owned it for along time ?

I hope you understand its not normal for all these things to go at once...
 
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Old Mar 6, 2021 | 12:44 PM
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You other guys okay? Kinda worried because the Battery Cable Bunch hasn’t chimed in yet and suggested replacing all of the cables just because. Hope you guys are well.

A bit of unrequested and over-rated troubleshooting philosophy for the original poster: See the link in post #2. Begin with a fully charged battery and spend ten minutes with a voltmeter. This test will confirm if your new battery and existing cables are up to snuff. If not, the test will pinpoint the exact fault. If all good, the next step is to check the charging system, to make sure the battery is getting a proper charge.
 
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Originally Posted by kr98664
You other guys okay? Kinda worried because the Battery Cable Bunch hasn’t chimed in yet and suggested replacing all of the cables just because. Hope you guys are well.

A bit of unrequested and over-rated troubleshooting philosophy for the original poster: See the link in post #2. Begin with a fully charged battery and spend ten minutes with a voltmeter. This test will confirm if your new battery and existing cables are up to snuff. If not, the test will pinpoint the exact fault. If all good, the next step is to check the charging system, to make sure the battery is getting a proper charge.

The testing procedure may not even be needed and may just need a visual... If the battery is getting dragged down that much by the starter there will be visual clues as to where the fault is. It may not be the battery cables or electrical at all, hence the request for more information. No point just blindly shooting in the dark. So just take a chill pill you can't do proper diagnostics with out information or even pick a direction to go.
 
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Originally Posted by kr98664
You other guys okay? Kinda worried because the Battery Cable Bunch hasn’t chimed in yet and suggested replacing all of the cables just because. Hope you guys are well.

A bit of unrequested and over-rated troubleshooting philosophy for the original poster: See the link in post #2. Begin with a fully charged battery and spend ten minutes with a voltmeter. This test will confirm if your new battery and existing cables are up to snuff. If not, the test will pinpoint the exact fault. If all good, the next step is to check the charging system, to make sure the battery is getting a proper charge.
Just for you Karl
We are good
If the battery cables look bad or of unknown age just replace them and never worry for a few more years

Listen to what they are saying on testing to find the weakest link
Dave ----
 
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Originally Posted by FuzzFace2
If the battery cables look bad or of unknown age just replace them and never worry for a few more years
Phew! What a relief to know you're okay. Over 24 hours elapsed before you made your recommendation. Please don't worry us like that again in the future.

​​​​​​And FWIW, I still have the original factory cables in my truck, still going strong 37 years later. I did replace the short cable between the battery and starter relay as a precaution due to a little external corrosion, but the others are still original.
 
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