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Very true. I looked at the competition and it appears that the Banks system is to only one that pulls power from the OBD port. Which is huge if the pedal monster decides to quit working. Your throttle will still work (in stock mode). The competitors systems pull power from the pedal, so, if it fails, it leaves you with no throttle. Hopefully this helps.
I guess so, but had the Pedal Commander for a year with no problems. If it quit, you would unplug it from the throttle module and plug the factory harness back on to stock function. Just didn't know how many piggybacks a guy can have off the back of the OBD port with remote start also using the port.
Unplugging from the pedal monster would be pretty tough if you were going 70 down the interstate pulling a camper..... Unless you could safely pull to the side of the road....
I installed the Pedal Commander on my new-to-me 2019 F250 with the 6.2. Huge difference, and actually I've found that in the city I like to go "Eco" mode most of the times, very relaxing. And as soon as I feel frisky I just put it in Sport for a while... ;-) It's the same concept that is applied with the "modes" on high-level cars (say Mercedes) where the throttle response is dramatically different going from one mode to the other.
The reasoning behind the possible problems of Pedal Commander drawing power from the accelerator can be made as well for the Banks on the ODB, with the difference that an ODB failure can be way more difficult to manage. But I would consider both as pure speculation, I haven't found a single case of failure in either one, so it doesn't really matter. I love to have them...
I had the Pedal Commander on my truck for about a year but changed to the Pedal Monster a few weeks ago. I installed the Derringer and iDash and wanted to keep everything Banks. The only difference that I can tell is that the Banks doesn’t make any changes while in reverse which for me works better when I’m backing our 5th wheel.
I was just curious if yall notice any difference on fuel mileage with the pedal controls. I ask cause I have noticed a little delay in the pedal and found I actually get better mileage being a little more aggressive on the pedal.
I know it doesnt change fueling but if increase in driveability has any other effects.
Very true. I looked at the competition and it appears that the Banks system is to only one that pulls power from the OBD port. Which is huge if the pedal monster decides to quit working. Your throttle will still work (in stock mode). The competitors systems pull power from the pedal, so, if it fails, it leaves you with no throttle. Hopefully this helps.
Thinking that if the Banks unit fails it will only affect the throttle is a pretty big assumption on your part. A Banks unit connected to the ODBII port is also connected to the high speed CAN bus - which could affect almost EVERYTHING in the truck. The Banks unit controls the throttle position via the CAN bus and the PCM - if it were to go "haywire" there are many things on that CAN bus that would be affected.
The Pedal Commander is connected between the pedal position module and the PCM - it does not connect to the CAN bus. If it were to fail it might make the pedal inoperative - but that is where it would stop. The Pedal Commander is powered via the voltage supplied by the PCM and the outputs on the PCM are current limited. Even if it failed as a "short" (highly unlikely) it would not damage anything.
All things equal, would I worry about either unit failing ? Not any more than any other solid state device in the truck - which there are hundreds.
I agree that the likelihood of a failure is pretty remote, so that's not a huge deal. For me, the reverse sensing is a more important consideration. By tying into the ODBII, the PedalMonster knows a lot more about what's happening in your truck. So, when you go into reverse, the throttle response goes to factory. Banks figures that you don't want the jumpy, peppy throttle when you're backing up. And, for me, that would be correct.
Here's a list of differences from Banks -- it's a marketing piece presented by Banks for Banks that's biased in favor of Banks, so take it for what it's worth. I'd say about a quarter of these things matter to me. The reverse thing, made in USA, etc.
I had the Pedal Commander on my truck for about a year but changed to the Pedal Monster a few weeks ago. I installed the Derringer and iDash and wanted to keep everything Banks. The only difference that I can tell is that the Banks doesn’t make any changes while in reverse which for me works better when I’m backing our 5th wheel.
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