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Old Feb 27, 2021 | 09:42 AM
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Is this ok - safe?

I've got a new enclosed H&H trailer, tandem axle, 7X14 with a 5 foot tongue. Total length of 19'. Empty weight is 2100 lbs, and has a 7100 GWVR rating. I will never get to the 7100 point, probably have total of 3000-3500 lbs total weight.

The trailer came with an adjustable hitch, so the hitch can be raised or lowered, depending what the ball height is for different vehicles.

The adjustable hitch is a good idea, except it has a lot of play - left and right, and up and down. Please see video.

So my question is: is this thing safe?

I've towed lots of trailers over the past 20 years, but never one with the adjustable hitch. I contacted H&H on Feb 8th, and they have yet to decide if the play is acceptable.

Thanks for you help and advise
 
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Old Feb 27, 2021 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 1carguy
I've got a new enclosed H&H trailer, tandem axle, 7X14 with a 5 foot tongue. Total length of 19'. Empty weight is 2100 lbs, and has a 7100 GWVR rating. I will never get to the 7100 point, probably have total of 3000-3500 lbs total weight.

The trailer came with an adjustable hitch, so the hitch can be raised or lowered, depending what the ball height is for different vehicles.

The adjustable hitch is a good idea, except it has a lot of play - left and right, and up and down. Please see video.

So my question is: is this thing safe?

I've towed lots of trailers over the past 20 years, but never one with the adjustable hitch. I contacted H&H on Feb 8th, and they have yet to decide if the play is acceptable.

Thanks for you help and advise
I would not run it like that. It may be relatively safe on paper...don't know strength of bolt or channel. However, when you have play like that it absolutely is not as strong as if there were no play.

Since you already have the trailer, and if you want to take advantage of the adjustability, why not make some steel shims to channel and the receiver?
 
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Old Feb 27, 2021 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 1carguy
I've got a new enclosed H&H trailer, tandem axle, 7X14 with a 5 foot tongue. Total length of 19'. Empty weight is 2100 lbs, and has a 7100 GWVR rating. I will never get to the 7100 point, probably have total of 3000-3500 lbs total weight.

The trailer came with an adjustable hitch, so the hitch can be raised or lowered, depending what the ball height is for different vehicles.

The adjustable hitch is a good idea, except it has a lot of play - left and right, and up and down. Please see video.

So my question is: is this thing safe?

I've towed lots of trailers over the past 20 years, but never one with the adjustable hitch. I contacted H&H on Feb 8th, and they have yet to decide if the play is acceptable.

Thanks for you help and advise
I would figure what height I needed it to be, then figure a way to tighten it to keep it from moving; or have the manufacturer figure a way to do it on their dime would be better yet.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2021 | 09:17 PM
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I would figure what height I needed it to be, ....
Then have it welded in place. Problem solved.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2021 | 06:58 AM
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Upon further review, I don’t believe the coupler is the correct one for that set-up. Talk to the seller, show them the video.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2021 | 07:51 AM
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not safe at all. As others have said go back to them for the correct one or have it welded. That will just failed over time.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2021 | 05:27 AM
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It'll probably wear out the bolts or the holes on the channel. And it'll probably take tens of thousands of miles to do that. It should be easy enough to drill whatever the smaller of the two up to the next size so the bolts fit tight and cram some washers between the channel and coupler.

Your best bet is probably to just take it to the dealer and bitch at them since it sounds like the trailer is new enough that that's an option.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2021 | 05:32 AM
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If your state requires a safety inspection, it will fail.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2021 | 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by senix
If your state requires a safety inspection, it will fail.
How many states do inspections on trailers that aren't subject to a commercial DOT inspection?

Exactly.
 
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Maryland does, but just a one time thing.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2021 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by arse_sidewards
How many states do inspections on trailers that aren't subject to a commercial DOT inspection?

Exactly.
NY requires an inspection (non-commercial). MA does not. Those are the only 2 states I personally have experience with.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2021 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by arse_sidewards
How many states do inspections on trailers that aren't subject to a commercial DOT inspection?

Exactly.
PA does on anything with a GVWR of 3000 or higher and brakes.
 
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My employer just purchased a H&H trailer 5 ton 20 foot Deck over trailer with the adjustable hitch. I know since I picked it up from the dealer. LoL It too has an adjustable 2 5/16 inch coupler. However, we have some up and down play maybe an 1/8 of inch which we expected. Side to side probably a hair. However we towed about 1,000 pounds on the deck during a test run and everything is solid. It felt like any other trailer with an adjustable coupler we have rented and towed. My boss felt if it is an issue we would just find a couple of washers and shim it. Our biggest need right now to getting the correct hieght ball utility head setup for the F150 and T350. My pintle hook on the truck was about 3 inches too low. We need at least a 4 inch raise in hieght with the coupler in the lowest position.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2021 | 12:01 PM
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Nope, not gonna run it like that..... It will fail after it drives you nuts clanking on every bump.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2021 | 01:24 PM
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The aftermarket hitch I installed on the wife's BMW X3 is great. It has a hidden tapered hole pointing down, the ball carrier has a tapered plug pointing up.

Unlike all the square hitch receivers w/ ball carriers, this tapered interface is dead silent when pulling an empty trailer, instead of the typical clunking at every bump.
 
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