Tremor vs regular springs
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Tremor vs regular springs
What is the difference in springs, besides ride height, between a tremor and a regular build? Ford shows a 5k lb reduction from 20k to 15k for max bumper pull trailer. Exact same rating 250 hctp or 350.
I like the Tremor pkg, if it doesn’t compromise my towing significantly. My max tow is about 12k on a 15k triple axle trailer. I also want to be able to use the truck as a hunting vehicle, so the Tremor is desirable.
I like the Tremor pkg, if it doesn’t compromise my towing significantly. My max tow is about 12k on a 15k triple axle trailer. I also want to be able to use the truck as a hunting vehicle, so the Tremor is desirable.
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This got posted up in another thread recently. I think it'll give you the information you are looking for:
2021 Ford RV & Trailer Towing Guide
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What is the difference in springs, besides ride height, between a tremor and a regular build? Ford shows a 5k lb reduction from 20k to 15k for max bumper pull trailer. Exact same rating 250 hctp or 350.
I like the Tremor pkg, if it doesn’t compromise my towing significantly. My max tow is about 12k on a 15k triple axle trailer. I also want to be able to use the truck as a hunting vehicle, so the Tremor is desirable.
I like the Tremor pkg, if it doesn’t compromise my towing significantly. My max tow is about 12k on a 15k triple axle trailer. I also want to be able to use the truck as a hunting vehicle, so the Tremor is desirable.
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This got posted up in another thread recently. I think it'll give you the information you are looking for:
2021 Ford RV & Trailer Towing Guide
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It appears from everything I have seen and read, that there is no difference in rear spring pack. I think on the front Ford claimed a progressive rate spring and a smaller diameter sway bar for the Tremor package. I wouldn't expect either of those things to significantly effect towing. Even if they did, could easily be swapped out for minimal expense.
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This is where I got the 15k from. My question is, does anyone know if the rear springs in a Tremor 250 HCTP are the same or different than a regular 250 HCTP or any 350 for that matter. I have already determined that a 250 and 350 Tremor are the exact same truck with different ratings, as is a regular 250 HCTP vs 350. I want the 250 to avoid commercial weight fees in California and save significant annual registration costs. With a 10,800 gvw plus my 15k gvw trailer, I fall UNDER the 26k combined total that requires all the other fees and licensing in California. I also like the Tremor package, but not of it results in significantly compromised conventional towing capability. I mean actual, not theoretical, or worrying about lawyers etc. just what the actual bottom line is functionally, not legally.
You are restricted in California to a 10k trailer and allowed up to a 15k fifth wheel with a type 41 restriction and a class c. Past that and it's CDL territory so don't count on the 26k limit.
https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/handbo...-requirements/
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You are restricted in California to a 10k trailer and allowed up to a 15k fifth wheel with a type 41 restriction and a class c. Past that and it's CDL territory so don't count on the 26k limit.
https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/handbo...-requirements/
https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/handbo...-requirements/
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yes, I know, but any truck over 11499 becomes a motor carrier and is subject to commercial weight fees along with the commercial license fee. I got screwed by it on my 11,500gvw 2017 350, hence the change to a 250. I don’t tow a 5th wheel or gooseneck, just a fishing boat, so I will not be a visible target for enforcement. My trailer is old and the load tag is long faded away. Any travel trailer or enclosed trailer will be a bumper pull 10k or less. It would take a real ***** of a cop to dig deep enough to find something to get me on. Not that he or she isn’t out there, just they aren’t the norm.
The towing regulations confuse the heck out of me. If I'm not mistaken a non commercial class A license is all thats needed to tow over 10k for recreational use.
I'm sure getting a non commercial class A license is probably not fun, nothing DMV related is, but is it costly compared to just a class C?
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In my case it amounts to about $475/year. I have to pay for the maximum gcvw which in my case is 11,500 plus 15000, or 26,500. Lowest level cuttoff is 26000 before paying for the next higher rating, so I get screwed. Also, in my case, I would theoretically have to stop at scales. I never would, but still another hurdle. Right now, my annual registration is $1472! Yes, that’s correct, and it amounts to $122 per month to the state of california just to own this thing.
As for the recreational class A, it ONLY applies to RVs, not boats, horse trailers or anything else people use “recreationally”.
Bottom line, **** this state and its laws, I will leave as soon as my youngest is out of high school in 4 years. In the meantime, I am going to buy an F250, built like an F350, pay less fees, tow just as much, and if I do get stopped have only one violation to contest, which is towing over 10k conventional without a commercial class A license.
The sad thing is, if a person wants to be responsible and buy a 350, or even a 350 dually so they are as safe as possible when towing, this stupid state penalizes them.
As for the recreational class A, it ONLY applies to RVs, not boats, horse trailers or anything else people use “recreationally”.
Bottom line, **** this state and its laws, I will leave as soon as my youngest is out of high school in 4 years. In the meantime, I am going to buy an F250, built like an F350, pay less fees, tow just as much, and if I do get stopped have only one violation to contest, which is towing over 10k conventional without a commercial class A license.
The sad thing is, if a person wants to be responsible and buy a 350, or even a 350 dually so they are as safe as possible when towing, this stupid state penalizes them.
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Have you configured a F-250/F-350 XLT or higher trim level for your max towing wanted/needed? You could take the $3,975 from the non-ordered Tremor package and add your lift, wheels, tires, shocks, etc.
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yes, I know, but any truck over 11499 becomes a motor carrier and is subject to commercial weight fees along with the commercial license fee. I got screwed by it on my 11,500gvw 2017 350, hence the change to a 250. I don’t tow a 5th wheel or gooseneck, just a fishing boat, so I will not be a visible target for enforcement. My trailer is old and the load tag is long faded away. Any travel trailer or enclosed trailer will be a bumper pull 10k or less. It would take a real ***** of a cop to dig deep enough to find something to get me on. Not that he or she isn’t out there, just they aren’t the norm.
The F350 comes in different GVWR configurations. When I ordered my F350, I had the option of the 11,400 or 11,500 GVWR limit. I have also seen 11,300 GVWR here on the forums. It is possible to have a F350 and be under the 11,499GVWR number.
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