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Old Jan 21, 2021 | 11:18 PM
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Power steering or something else

i have an issue that just came up on my 2011 f-150 with a 5.0L
here is the symptoms.
1) steering seems to catch and be "heavy" under 40mph.
2) no codes
3) no noise
4) no codes using torque pro app.

Watched the video in the tech folder. looks like i can test it again with the engine off, but key on or was his truck just really quiet?
So i am curious, kind of down to 2 things, one is the intermediate shaft u joints, is there a way to test that without removing it?
the other is the rack. and i saw on the dorman part site, that they send a module with the rack to program your truck to the new rack. would this be a good idea?
lots of threads about this, but i have not found one that is really helpful in knowing what steps to take.
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Old Jan 22, 2021 | 08:07 PM
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Before throwing parts at it would recommend lubing-up the swivel joints on the shaft.

Me: Always lube 'em with 80w90 gear lub' every oil change.
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Old Jan 22, 2021 | 10:25 PM
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thanks, i will try that first, the steering is not really super hard to turn like no power steering, but just kind of drags and catches at points and will not always return on it's own. good over 40mph, but never turn very far at those speeds.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2021 | 11:08 PM
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There was a TSB for this exact issue when these trucks were new. The fix was to replace the rack.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2021 | 11:43 AM
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Search TSB 11-8-18.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2021 | 11:48 PM
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that tsb sounds like what it is doing. i am not picking up any codes with torque pro app, but it sounds like i need more advanced? will forscan read it? or should i see it on what i have if there were a code.
off tomorrow so i will try and oil it, and see if that helps.

 
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Old Jan 25, 2021 | 09:43 AM
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My bet is that it's the intermediate shaft. Just replace the whole shaft its under $200 for OEM if you look for it. To make sure it's the issue, make sure to lube both u joints.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2021 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by blackestate
that tsb sounds like what it is doing. i am not picking up any codes with torque pro app, but it sounds like i need more advanced? will forscan read it? or should i see it on what i have if there were a code.
off tomorrow so i will try and oil it, and see if that helps.
There won't be any fault codes associated with it, the internal servo sensor has physically moved from where it was glued. There was no repair on these units and that's why there were no rebuilt units made, these were a scrap only item. The updated ones made after October 2012 have the magnet counter drilled into the shaft. You will need to access the SCM with forscan.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2021 | 01:02 PM
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what is the risk of driving it tis way?
 
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Old Jan 25, 2021 | 02:25 PM
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what is the risk of driving it tis way?
It locks up in a turn and won't return to center. Or it will grab and try to center itself when you least expect it to. Be warned the steering rack will aim for center of the sensor and that doesn't mean the steering will be straight ahead. These racks are very easy to swap if you do it yourself. Has this truck ever had any steering components or suspension replaced? One of the common failure modes is removing the tie rods and forgetting to disconnect the battery which kills the rack.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2021 | 10:29 PM
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i do not know about the previous work on the truck. i have had it about 8 months. Changing it does not look hard from the videos i have seen. but i do not know about the programming.
i did lube the shaft today and will see what happens,
Truck has about 150K ok it.

I would have never thought of disconnecting the battery to work on the tie rod ends..
 
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Old Jan 27, 2021 | 10:35 PM
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so it looks like putting oil on the intermediate shaft has helped. so i need to get one of those, can a generic aftermarket be trusted for $40 from amazon?
 
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Old Mar 10, 2021 | 10:11 AM
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so it looks like putting oil on the intermediate shaft has helped. so i need to get one of those, can a generic aftermarket be trusted for $40 from amazon?
I wouldn't and didn't. Its under $200 for oem. I wouldn't risk it when it comes to steering.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2021 | 11:36 PM
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so i changed the intermediate shaft and now the steering wheel is slightly off center. it was good before. the place i got the shaft from said i now need an alignment to correct it? it is not far enough off to be installed wrong after oil of the original there were no more issues, should i just put the original back?

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Old Mar 23, 2021 | 07:51 PM
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Pretty much your rack is junk and you dont want to replace it
 
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