Bed size queen vs king
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Bed size queen vs king
7 years ago my wife and I went to a furniture store and laid on a Sterns and Foster king size pillow top mattress. I literally said oh my god three times out loud because I never experienced anything like it. Well, we got the queen size version and once it got delivered and set up I laid on it expecting same experience, but was disappointed. Figuring it needed breaking in, we waited several months, then turned to years, but still not. We've rotated every 6 months, etc.
I did read during that time we got it, that obviously being a king size, there are a higher number of coils and that makes a difference. Does it really though? I mean it's not like I can cover all the area of the bed all at once so I feel that wouldn't matter.
Is there any other explanation as to why the queen did not feel nearly as comfortable as the king, even though they were the exact same brand, type, etc?
I did read during that time we got it, that obviously being a king size, there are a higher number of coils and that makes a difference. Does it really though? I mean it's not like I can cover all the area of the bed all at once so I feel that wouldn't matter.
Is there any other explanation as to why the queen did not feel nearly as comfortable as the king, even though they were the exact same brand, type, etc?
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I would doubt that it's a king vs queen deal although anything's possible. What is the difference between the in store and the one you got as far as comfort?
I'm only guessing, but here are the things that I wondered about.
Does it make a difference if it's just you or the both of you in the bed?
Did you get a box spring with it? Were there options as to the type?
Do you have a center support bar underneath the middle of the bed?
Are you sure that you got the exact same mattress?
Hope you have btter luck next time,
hj
I'm only guessing, but here are the things that I wondered about.
Does it make a difference if it's just you or the both of you in the bed?
Did you get a box spring with it? Were there options as to the type?
Do you have a center support bar underneath the middle of the bed?
Are you sure that you got the exact same mattress?
Hope you have btter luck next time,
hj
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It's the width between the two. The coils near the perimeter on most mattresses are firmer for edge support. So with a queen you have less overall area in the middle especially with two people and you often end up in a very narrow area of comfort. If you go to call king most have compensation springs down the center which are firm to compensate for the dual box springs double edge running the center of the bed and to keep you evenly spaced.
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That's an interesting explanation and sure makes sense---coil count would definitely affect support all across the mattress I'm sure.
I have a newer mattress, 'bout 2 years or so by now, standard queen size. I'm not one for those over price box spring sets they try foisting on buyers--mine lays on top of an older box spring with a full sheet of 3/4 plywood underneath----the whole arrangement is flat on the floor. The current and probably forever girlfriend insisted "we" buy a new mattress as my old one had "too many miles" on it. Read "miles" as "other naked butts.."
Next time out which will be soon I'll look more into the mattress coil count, making sure they're evenly and closely spaced with same rates in the center as along the perimeter.
Good advice though---something I'd never considered before!
I have a newer mattress, 'bout 2 years or so by now, standard queen size. I'm not one for those over price box spring sets they try foisting on buyers--mine lays on top of an older box spring with a full sheet of 3/4 plywood underneath----the whole arrangement is flat on the floor. The current and probably forever girlfriend insisted "we" buy a new mattress as my old one had "too many miles" on it. Read "miles" as "other naked butts.."
Next time out which will be soon I'll look more into the mattress coil count, making sure they're evenly and closely spaced with same rates in the center as along the perimeter.
Good advice though---something I'd never considered before!
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I as well have never thought about those things. A mattress is something you only buy maybe every 10-15 years?? Years ago, wife and I were traveling out west, we stayed at a hotel that had the most comfortable bed we'd ever felt. So I peeled back the sheets in morning & wrote down the mattress type. It was a commercial mattress but I called the company and they made us one! Still using it today. We did the same thing to find our pillows. So I always say, our mattress is from Cortez Co. & pillows are from San Antonio Tx.!!!! At least we got to try before we buy!!
Anyway, we slept on a King but ordered a queen. Our was slighy firmer but not sure if it was from newness or wear time.
Anyway, we slept on a King but ordered a queen. Our was slighy firmer but not sure if it was from newness or wear time.
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Size-wise I'd not mind a king but something between that and a queen would be better suited to my current bedroom size. A full king would have almost the entire floor covered in mattress.
Plus I notice the cost of sheets etc seem to skyrocket.
Plus I notice the cost of sheets etc seem to skyrocket.
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My first wife and I bought a top-of-the-line Sterns & Foster king sized bed, ultra firm, back in 1979. When we divorced a year later I got to keep the bed and kept it until about 2 years ago, when my (second) wife decided we needed to replace it. The technology has certainly changed and modern beds just don't give the same kind of support that the older coil spring beds did.
You may be "a victim" of the newer technology, or perhaps you didn't get the bed you thought you'd ordered?
You may be "a victim" of the newer technology, or perhaps you didn't get the bed you thought you'd ordered?
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Could it be it was so comfortable because your wife was further away?
Sorry. Just couldn't help it. We have a king size, pillow top and when we go somewhere on vacation and get a queen we can definitely tell a difference. It sounds bad when we say it but the difference is the other person being closer. Nothing to do with the relationship. We get along great. Just strange having someone closer when you try to sleep.
Sorry. Just couldn't help it. We have a king size, pillow top and when we go somewhere on vacation and get a queen we can definitely tell a difference. It sounds bad when we say it but the difference is the other person being closer. Nothing to do with the relationship. We get along great. Just strange having someone closer when you try to sleep.
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Could it be it was so comfortable because your wife was further away?
Sorry. Just couldn't help it. We have a king size, pillow top and when we go somewhere on vacation and get a queen we can definitely tell a difference. It sounds bad when we say it but the difference is the other person being closer. Nothing to do with the relationship. We get along great. Just strange having someone closer when you try to sleep.
Sorry. Just couldn't help it. We have a king size, pillow top and when we go somewhere on vacation and get a queen we can definitely tell a difference. It sounds bad when we say it but the difference is the other person being closer. Nothing to do with the relationship. We get along great. Just strange having someone closer when you try to sleep.
but anyway, yeah there's a difference in mattress size. I'm considering a new king size for just that reason.Has to be something to do with support coverage over a span of material.
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Could it be it was so comfortable because your wife was further away?
Sorry. Just couldn't help it. We have a king size, pillow top and when we go somewhere on vacation and get a queen we can definitely tell a difference. It sounds bad when we say it but the difference is the other person being closer. Nothing to do with the relationship. We get along great. Just strange having someone closer when you try to sleep.
Sorry. Just couldn't help it. We have a king size, pillow top and when we go somewhere on vacation and get a queen we can definitely tell a difference. It sounds bad when we say it but the difference is the other person being closer. Nothing to do with the relationship. We get along great. Just strange having someone closer when you try to sleep.
If sleeping separate is good for the relationship talk it out----relying on conventional mind sets is all well and good but sleep is important for the body AND the mental attitudes as well. If it helps remind the significant other its kinda fun having an overnight guest in the same bed---kinda like dating all over again!
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I do that plywood trick myself---definitely is better support across the entire mattress than if it were laying on the box springs. Its almost like the old days when we'd put a mattress on the bare floor and think that was cool.
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My suspicion would be with how the store setup their display. I remember back when...the salesman tried to stop me from lifting the mattress, I ignored him and found a sheet of plywood between the mattress and box spring. It's purpose was to make the mattress feel more firm in the center. FWIW, I went with a memory foam mattress a while back and it's amazing. I will never buy a regular mattress again.
We bought a memory foam mattress 7 or 8 years ago and I'll never own another one. About 18 months after buying, it had such a bad memory that it was like sleeping in a hammock. You had to lay in the ravine and rolling over was nearly impossible. The warranty that came with it was crap, too. Their test was to lay a straight edge over the mattress and any depression had to be over 1.5" for them to replace it. That was measured to the mattress cover, which is a useless measurement.
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