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Well if the 460 is mounted in the truck than I can see going with that for now just to get it running / driving and go from there on how you / he want to go.
I take it the lift and bigger tires is big out there? Is that what the other kids are doing on their newer trucks?
Not that that is wrong but you are going with a totally different truck why not go lower LOL
I am one of the first to say, its your or should I say his truck build it as you want it.
Note I don't know of anyone making lift kits suspensions for a 4x2 truck with twin I beams, that is what your truck has right? (not up on the year to much )
Some will say just add longer springs and if so the issue is when lifted the camber changes and with kingpins the only way to bring it back into spec is to bend the beams.
That is where the trouble comes in as most shops if they even have specs for that year truck don't have the means to bend the beams, not even on my 81 F100 but had the specs.
A kit I think would be springs and beams and reuse your spindles & brakes (drum?)
Now if he wanted to lower it DJM http://djmsuspension.com/ I think makes a kit, beams and parts for out back if he was not going with the CV front end swap.
Just like if you were going to raise with coils lowering with coils is the same, need to bend the beams to get camber back into spec.
The DJM beams are built with the kingpin mounts raised up so your spindles sit higher to lower the truck.
We 80-86 owners have the same issues with raising or lowering trucks and the 80-82 more so as we have kingpins and DJM dose not make beams for our trucks as they use 2 different size pins
Just a little info on the front suspension to think about.
Again reading through others posts to see what they are doing and to get ideals on what you may want to do to the truck.
Dave ----
You hit on a point here that has had me wondering for a while - I have not seen many of these older pickups being lifted. That is one of main reason we are wanting to do that - something just alittle different (we also like the look). I have been lurking/skimming for a year or so and have not seen many builds at all that included a lift. That has me a little worried, but hopefully we can get it figured out...
Yeah I would say a small lift and bigger tires are big in TX. But, most of the kids at the school he goes to will have new vehicles (farming community kids). He knows he won't be getting a new vehicle, but really he has never expressed interest in a new vehicle (may be b/c we don't drive new, IDK). He (and I) have known that he needs something different...
Yes, I've been gathering a play from reading thru the forum and will continue to do that. Honestly, I can't image trying to accomplish a build without a forum. Just for fun and picture reference, here is a pic of what we would want our pickup to look like or similar:
FWIW My '65 has the original bone stock 300 - 6cyl and a T18 4 speed and I really like that setup over a big heavy monster under the hood. I drive it all the time, haul things like 3/4 a yard of decomposed granite, and we pull a 16ft vintage trailer on long trips with it. After about 8 years of driving it I did add a Gear vendors OD behind the T18. Before the OD install we did a 2,500 mile trip towing the trailer. With the OD with the stock 3.50 gears not loaded or towing it gets 17mpg freeway doing 65-70mph, around 15mpg towing the trailer.
There are lots of good mods out there for the 240/300 engines, planning some of those for mine. Bottom end torque is great I pass semis no problem on the hills.
Yeah my dad has told me the same thing. I may keep it around just in case we need to stick it back in there.
My only hold up is, the pickup needs to be loud...
You won't get your truck that high unless someone makes a lift kit for those older model twin I beams. That would require I beam lowering brackets and radius are lowering brackets. There may be a kit available somewhere.
The more you lift with just the front springs, the more the axle needs to be bent, which will remove some of the lift you just gave it.
Here's a pic of a raised slick the day I got it home. Same deal - It's a father son project - my partner is behind the wheel.
This has the larger wheel wells and a straight axle, so a different animal from yours. Tires are lt315/75r16 - which google says are 34.6 inches.
Here's a pic of a raised slick the day I got it home. Same deal - It's a father son project - my partner is behind the wheel.
This has the larger wheel wells and a straight axle, so a different animal from yours. Tires are lt315/75r16 - which google says are 34.6 inches.
Your truck was raised from the factory. Here's one of my 1966 F250 4x4's. Same deal - somewhat smaller tires on this one. Easier to steer in tight spots. Looks like someone bobbed your bed - All F250 4x4 were 8' bed 1961-1966 if they were Styleside wrong bed. Or it's an illusion of the camera. Looks shorter for some reason.
Your truck was raised from the factory. Here's one of my 1966 F250 4x4's. Same deal - somewhat smaller tires on this one. Easier to steer in tight spots. Looks like someone bobbed your bed - All 4x4 were 8' bed in the F250 series.
Thanks - on the bed - I was curious and asked the PO - he was unsure, since all the mod work was done by a previous PO. I have some notes, and no mention made of reducing the bed. I need to sleuth more around the sheetmetal.
I'm going to start a post next weekend on this truck to pick all your brains about suspension, drive train and any other bits that get flagged. Now that I'm reliably on the road, I'm looking to spend more time getting knowledgeable about some details
For turning radius, I just light-up the backend in 2WD, and turn on a dime
They did make a 6' "wrong bed" that was used on shortbed 1957-1960 (not wrong for those years) and 1962-63 non-unibody stylesides before Ford developed the newer styleside for 2WD in 1964.
Like this truck has. Same bed but in a 6' instead of 8'. If you have a chance turn your front wheels straight ahead and get a rough measure of the wheelbase from center of front axle to center of rear axle.
Cool.
I've checked that - pretty sure it's 120". I previously looked into if there were frame chops, and pretty sure there are none. I'll spend more time on it. Here's the VIN as well
I've always wondered why a person couldn't flip the dream beams the other way around to give a 3" lift instead of the drop. Leave the radius arms and springs the same since they hook to that first hole inboard of the spindle. Pivot point should work either way. Camber would probably be off some and they likely don't support bending dream beams - not sure.
Cool.
I've checked that - pretty sure it's 120". I previously looked into if there were frame chops, and pretty sure there are none. I'll spend more time on it. Here's the VIN as well
You oughta start your own dedicated thread on your truck if you haven't already so we can track some of that down if you want. Throw a tape measure in the bed and see if it's 8' or something less. Should tell the tale.
I've ridden in these trucks since they were brand new and something definitely up with the length of yours. Here's another of same year and you can see the bed seems longer than yours. The 2WD short bed was really about 6 1/2' long.
There are kits to lift the Twin I Beam trucks if you want to spend the money. I'm sure the right shop would be able to bend the stock beams also and you could piece together a lift for less money. https://autofab.com/i-9731802-1965-1...nomy-lift.html
I've had three 460 powered trucks , 1960, 1978, 1986; but not sure I'd put my kid in one as a first vehicle but really depends on the kid. My kids both drove a custom 84 Ranger with a shortened wheelbase and a 4.0 and I'm sure they both drove it like a hotrod but managed to stay out of trouble.
Here's a pic of a raised slick the day I got it home. Same deal - It's a father son project - my partner is behind the wheel.
This has the larger wheel wells and a straight axle, so a different animal from yours. Tires are lt315/75r16 - which google says are 34.6 inches.
The gap between the cab and bed seems a little bigger than normal. Maybe they put a shortbed on the truck and trimmed the frame off in the back.
There are kits to lift the Twin I Beam trucks if you want to spend the money. I'm sure the right shop would be able to bend the stock beams also and you could piece together a lift for less money. https://autofab.com/i-9731802-1965-1...nomy-lift.html
I've had three 460 powered trucks , 1960, 1978, 1986; but not sure I'd put my kid in one as a first vehicle but really depends on the kid. My kids both drove a custom 84 Ranger with a shortened wheelbase and a 4.0 and I'm sure they both drove it like a hotrod but managed to stay out of trouble.
My kid is going to drive the Tacoma until he has some road experience. The clutch/pedal/460 combo in my truck could quickly take out 1/2 an intersection in the wrong hands. I was looking for manual to make sure my kids know how to drive a stick, but I'll ease them into it.
Read this article about the '61 to '66 truck changes, and available beds and wheelbases. This says that 120" wheelbase short bed 4x4s were positively offered in F100 and F250.
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