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Old Dec 31, 2020 | 08:30 AM
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4wd Vacuum Solinoid

My front hubs will not lock when turned to auto. I’ve checked fuses. I have vacuum. I am suspecting it is the vacuum solinoid. Anyone know where the solinoid is located on the 2017 super duty?
 
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Old Dec 31, 2020 | 08:42 AM
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My front hubs will not lock when turned to auto. I’ve checked fuses. I have vacuum. I am suspecting it is the vacuum solinoid. Anyone know where the solinoid is located on the 2017 super duty?
How cold is it where you are located when this happens?
If it is too cold, the grease is too stiff to allow movement of parts inside hub.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2020 | 09:33 AM
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Not cold. About freezing.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2020 | 10:08 AM
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Not cold. About freezing.
OK. That *should* eliminate cold temp issues. I never really had issues until below zero. Was just a thought since it is that time of year in a lot of places.
Of course, that is the beauty of the Ford hubs, if you even *think* you are going to need 4WD you can turn the hubs to LOCK and just drive, switching to 4H as needed, and back to 2H when not needed until you get the issue resolved. Can’t help on location of any relays or solonoids.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2020 | 10:14 AM
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Do you have vacuum at the hubs? If so, I would say your solenoid is working fine and you need to look into the hubs, but it would be surprising that a mechanical issue in the hub would affect both identically.

The hubs lock when vacuum is applied and unlock when vacuum is gone. Both hubs share the same "plenum" so any leak on the hub side of the solenoid will cause both hubs to not lock. It is super common for the vacuum lines to just fall off the hubs.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2020 | 10:32 AM
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My front hubs will not lock when turned to auto. I’ve checked fuses. I have vacuum. I am suspecting it is the vacuum solinoid. Anyone know where the solinoid is located on the 2017 super duty?
If you have vacuum why suspect the solenoid ?
 
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Old Dec 31, 2020 | 10:42 AM
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My front hubs will not lock when turned to auto. I’ve checked fuses. I have vacuum. I am suspecting it is the vacuum solinoid. Anyone know where the solinoid is located on the 2017 super duty?
Near the vacuum pump.

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Old Dec 31, 2020 | 01:25 PM
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If you have vacuum why suspect the solenoid ?
I've got vacuum at the pump.... no vacuum at the hubs.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2020 | 01:38 PM
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I've got vacuum at the pump.... no vacuum at the hubs.
If that's the case.... Bypass the solenoid and connect "hose to hose" and see if the 4 wheel drive works.

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Originally Posted by 4by4ord
I've got vacuum at the pump.... no vacuum at the hubs.
The solenoid is a common failure point, its mounted to the rear of the coolant tank.
 
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Originally Posted by ford390gashog
The solenoid is a common failure point, its mounted to the rear of the coolant tank.
Found it. Thanks. Turns out the solenoid valve is working ..... vacuum passes through when selector is set to 4H and not when set to 2H. No vacuum at hubs. It's not a hub seal leaking because I can unhook the left side or right side and find no vacuum on either side. I think it has to be a leaking line although I can follow all the lines and there is nothing obvious...... everything looks new. Anyway thanks for your help.
 
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Found it. Thanks. Turns out the solenoid valve is working ..... vacuum passes through when selector is set to 4H and not when set to 2H. No vacuum at hubs. It's not a hub seal leaking because I can unhook the left side or right side and find no vacuum on either side. I think it has to be a leaking line although I can follow all the lines and there is nothing obvious...... everything looks new. Anyway thanks for your help.
If you have a compressor you can set the regulator low and rig airline to the hose @ vacuum solenoid out put line and see what happens (unless you have a smoke machine). I remember getting into the "ESOF" system good on my 08 or 15 and I think I remember a vacuum filter/ one way valve after the solenoid (I may be wrong). Unhook left side with right hooked or visa versa ? My previous split the vacuum output hose into two hoses somewhere if any part downstream leaks regardless all will have no vacuum. Should be easy to find..isolate right from left, air pressure should show you to, engine of to check plumbing down stream of solenoid.
 
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