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Old Dec 21, 2020 | 03:42 PM
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stripped spark plug thread

Had a plug blow out of the engine. Looks like its a stripped cross threaded problem on my 239 flat head.
Anyone know the correct threat size of the spark plug?
Were can you find a heli-coil repair kit.
The autoparts stores around here say its 14 MM..............I don't think so its a 1952 Flat head ford?
And as in most stores you get this dumb look and you walk out.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2020 | 04:43 PM
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Can you measure the thread outside diameter on the spark plug using dial calipers and then check the thread pitch with a thread pitch gauge?
 
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Old Dec 21, 2020 | 04:59 PM
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14mm x 1.25 are the threads I believe
 
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Old Dec 21, 2020 | 08:00 PM
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14mm x 1.25 are the threads I believe
Correct! Are you going to pull the head, or try it in-place? The risk is getting metal chips into the cylinder.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2020 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
Correct! Are you going to pull the head, or try it in-place? The risk is getting metal chips into the cylinder.
Ive heard of guys bringing the piston up to the top of the cylinder then injecting shaving cream into the spark plug hole all the way up prior to drilling and installing the helicoil. Then vacuum out the shaving cream and metal shavings. My major concern would be making absolutely sure I get the tag end of the helicoil out of there.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2020 | 08:48 PM
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Ive heard of guys bringing the piston up to the top of the cylinder then injecting shaving cream into the spark plug hole all the way up prior to drilling and installing the helicoil. Then vacuum out the shaving cream and metal shavings. My major concern would be making absolutely sure I get the tag end of the helicoil out of there.
That's clever! I've heard of people greasing the drill bit and tap, but that's not fool-proof. Yes, the tang can be an issue. Personally I'd prefer a TimeSert, but the tools for that aren't cheap, and you might need the head off to do it right. If you could get the truck to a shop that has the tools, that would be worth the trouble IMO.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2020 | 09:44 PM
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Here is an option to heli-coil

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https://www.timesert.com/
 
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Old Dec 22, 2020 | 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by hobohilton
Here is an option to heli-coil

Hobo

https://www.timesert.com/
Yes, use something like a timesert. There are others as well specifically for spark plugs. Some are sold in good auto parts stores. When using a standard heli-coil there is some risk of it screwing in through the spark plug hole and falling into the cylinder when the spark plug is installed.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2020 | 04:35 AM
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This will give you a bit of an idea of what you are looking at...
Amazon.com: Time-Sert M14x1.25 Spark Plug Thread Repair kit p/n 4412E-111: Home Improvement Amazon.com: Time-Sert M14x1.25 Spark Plug Thread Repair kit p/n 4412E-111: Home Improvement
 
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Old Dec 22, 2020 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
Correct! Are you going to pull the head, or try it in-place? The risk is getting metal chips into the cylinder.
i have read a trick is to coat the tap with grease to capture the small amount of chip that chasing the thread down for a heli-coil.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2020 | 06:33 AM
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Also, using Locktite 2620 high temperature thread lock helps prevent the heli-coil from dropping into the cylinder
 
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Old Dec 22, 2020 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
That's clever! I've heard of people greasing the drill bit and tap, but that's not fool-proof. Yes, the tang can be an issue. Personally I'd prefer a TimeSert, but the tools for that aren't cheap, and you might need the head off to do it right. If you could get the truck to a shop that has the tools, that would be worth the trouble IMO.
Good advice I think. I agree you would be sure of a good repair if you removed the head. I also agree that a time sert is the better repair.

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Which plug is it? I'm honestly kind of surprised the threads in a c.i. head would strip without serious torque. Might be worth seeing if you can get the plug in square and if it will take torque. (20 - 25 ft-lbs)
 
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I agree with the time cert. I did a plug time cert in the distant past on an installed Mercedes head doing the grease in the tap flutes trick. I ran the tap in a few turns, removed cleaned regreased and tap a few more threads, repeat, repeat.
 
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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
Which plug is it? I'm honestly kind of surprised the threads in a c.i. head would strip without serious torque. Might be worth seeing if you can get the plug in square and if it will take torque. (20 - 25 ft-lbs)
That was my first thought. If it were me I'd start simple (and cheap) and try and find the correct "thread chaser" and see if you can clean up your existing threads. You might be pleasantly surprised and save a lot of time and cash.

Good luck
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