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Old Dec 16, 2020 | 06:45 PM
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Hello all. I have a couple questions regarding a 1990 f150 lariat . It’s a single cab, long bed,6 cyl. Also 4WD with a manual transmission(granny gear plus three). It’s in excellent condition, no rust and garaged kept. It’s the original owner with 44k miles. Fairly new aggressive tires on original wheels. He is asking $6k? Does that sound reasonable to you folks?
Also, is there anything I should be concerned with for that year and engine? Any “typical” problems.
We don’t plan on taking it on long trips however Lowe’s see us fairly often. The trip to Lowe’s is about 30 minutes in a 70 mph zone. Not sure the gears, but any guess to rpm at 65-70?

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Old Dec 16, 2020 | 10:36 PM
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That is a $1000 truck.. your call if you want to overpay that much for it. There were a wide range of gear ratios available for these.. from 2.73 to 4.10, and the I6 trucks were often cursed with the lowest numerically in the list. The "as built" decal on the door pillar will have an axle code, the owners manual has tables to decode these things, if one isn't included post up what you find and somebody with a manual will help you out.

 
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Old Dec 17, 2020 | 04:50 AM
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6k seems high to me, but 1000 bucks is way low in my opinion. Really on a thirty year old truck, it's worth whatever you want to spend.

I'd probably be a player at $4500 on that truck in my neighborhood.

 
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Old Dec 17, 2020 | 05:20 AM
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Depends on where you are... If it's a genuine clean 44k mile 4x4 truck in the northeast someone can get $6k for it. California will have a different price, and the south will have a different price.

In 1990, if it's got a 4spd and no OD, then it likely has a high gear ratio, vs a truck that had a 5spd or 4spd auto would have a low gear ratio
 
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Old Dec 17, 2020 | 09:43 AM
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Like Paul, to me, that is a $1000 truck, but I'm not in the market and have no affinity for a base model truck with the 4.9L 6 cylinder. I'm sure it will sell for much more if it's as clean as stated. Like said above, region & local market will dictate what someone is willing to spend, and ultimately that's what it's worth. Keep in mind, 44,000 miles, 144,000 miles or 244,000 miles all look the same on the odometer of a 1990 truck.

What has you looking at an somewhat expensive 30 year old truck? Simplicity, nostalgia, cool factor, want a project? Compared to a modern truck, these are somewhat high maintenance vehicles and not particularly capable (low weight capacities, slower, less efficient). At 30 years old, plan on it needing miscellaneous repairs. That said, nothing wrong with wanting one, I enjoy mine (1996 F-150 with 5.8L/E4OD/4x4), just don't want anyone to get the wrong idea about what they are. I do not recommend them to people that don't do their own wrenching. If you are going to buy an old truck, a well kept original owner low-mile truck is the way to go so you're not repairing hack-job repairs often found on the cheaper listings.

As for RPM at cruising speed, depends on tire size and axle gearing. Stock tire size is just under 29", with a few having about a 31" tire. For a rough idea, lets say 3.08 gear ratio (common in 4.9L trucks), 29" tall tire, non-overdrive manual trans in direct drive (1:1), engine will spin at ~2500 RPM at 70 MPH. Another common ratio is 3.55:1, then the engine would be at ~2880 RPM at 70 MPH.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2020 | 10:00 AM
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I think around here that would probably be around a $3,000 truck.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2020 | 12:36 PM
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Wow, the next time I need to buy a truck I will be sure to hit you guys for some leads in your neighborhoods. An original owner 44k mi OBS Ford truck in my neck of the woods at $6k would be considered a great find especially considering its a manual 4x4. I get that its all relative but in So Cal market buyers put a lot of value into a 30 year old vehicle that has been in the same hands for its entire life. Its just my opinion, based only on the information presented.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2020 | 02:31 PM
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Depending on the shape the body is in, probably not far off from being a $1000 to $2000 pick-up in this area. For that thing to be $6000 USD, it would need to be a 4 wheel drive, F350, 5 speed truck in very good shape.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2020 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by tirefriar
Wow, the next time I need to buy a truck I will be sure to hit you guys for some leads in your neighborhoods. An original owner 44k mi OBS Ford truck in my neck of the woods at $6k would be considered a great find especially considering its a manual 4x4. I get that its all relative but in So Cal market buyers put a lot of value into a 30 year old vehicle that has been in the same hands for its entire life.
I bet the emissions exemptions that come with a 30+ year old vehicle are a big reason for the value they bring in that market. No such thing up here but then there is no way the body would be in anywhere close to the same condition as a Cali truck either... even if it was never winter driven. But forget that for a second, all the wiring and all rubber parts on this truck are badly deteriorated or are in need of immediate replacement, and if it hasn't been replace already the PCM is due. In terms of towing and performance this thing is a sad excuse for a truck by todays standards, it might only have a 2-3000lb towing capacity depending on the axle ratio, and it will be perpetually in the way everywhere it goes with only 150hp under the hood. At anything above 60mph the side widows whistle and the windshield wipers lift off the glass, the front suspension has massive bump steer, and 500lb in the bed will squat it like the rear suspension is broken. Up here the same money would buy you a 12yr old F150 that beats it in every regard but I get it for those that appreciate and even like the idiosyncracies of old vehicles.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2020 | 09:32 PM
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I bet the emissions exemptions that come with a 30+ year old vehicle are a big reason for the value they bring in that market. No such thing up here but then there is no way the body would be in anywhere close to the same condition as a Cali truck either... even if it was never winter driven. But forget that for a second, all the wiring and all rubber parts on this truck are badly deteriorated or are in need of immediate replacement, and if it hasn't been replace already the PCM is due. In terms of towing and performance this thing is a sad excuse for a truck by todays standards, it might only have a 2-3000lb towing capacity depending on the axle ratio, and it will be perpetually in the way everywhere it goes with only 150hp under the hood. At anything above 60mph the side widows whistle and the windshield wipers lift off the glass, the front suspension has massive bump steer, and 500lb in the bed will squat it like the rear suspension is broken. Up here the same money would buy you a 12yr old F150 that beats it in every regard but I get it for those that appreciate and even like the idiosyncracies of old vehicles.
I always read people complaining about how slow the 300 is. In Atlanta traffic I have no issues. no problem going 70 either and the wipers work just fine.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2020 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Conanski
I bet the emissions exemptions that come with a 30+ year old vehicle are a big reason for the value they bring in that market. No such thing up here but then there is no way the body would be in anywhere close to the same condition as a Cali truck either... even if it was never winter driven. But forget that for a second, all the wiring and all rubber parts on this truck are badly deteriorated or are in need of immediate replacement, and if it hasn't been replace already the PCM is due. In terms of towing and performance this thing is a sad excuse for a truck by todays standards, it might only have a 2-3000lb towing capacity depending on the axle ratio, and it will be perpetually in the way everywhere it goes with only 150hp under the hood. At anything above 60mph the side widows whistle and the windshield wipers lift off the glass, the front suspension has massive bump steer, and 500lb in the bed will squat it like the rear suspension is broken. Up here the same money would buy you a 12yr old F150 that beats it in every regard but I get it for those that appreciate and even like the idiosyncracies of old vehicles.
California emmission cut off is 1975 and ealier. 1976 and newer require bi-annual smog inspection. a 1990 gas powered car or truck would definitely be subject to smog.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2020 | 10:36 AM
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I always read people complaining about how slow the 300 is. In Atlanta traffic I have no issues. no problem going 70 either and the wipers work just fine.
Yeah, I don't get it either. The 300-6 Trucks I've had have always done basically whatever I've asked of them, at reasonable speeds, including towing some fairly heavy loads, or having heavy payloads in the bed. How damn fast do people think they need to drive?
 
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Old Dec 19, 2020 | 12:10 PM
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A low mile one owner and rust free truck is only worth a 1000 bucks?? I will take a dozen at that price!!!! My last tow truck had a 300 with a four speed in it and towed a lot with it. I drove 80-96 Ford trucks every day for 30 plus years and never had my wipers fly off the windshield. Just a rust free cab ,in my neck off the woods, would be more than a 1000 bucks.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2020 | 12:35 PM
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Strange, I can put 2500 lbs in the bed of my '87 and it sits level. All 100% factory underneath too.

I'm with the above poster, send me a dozen low mile, one owner trucks at that $1000.00 price.
 
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