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Old Dec 9, 2020 | 08:14 PM
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I drove 3 hours and got a new ipr. Truck starts now but duty cycle still drops to 4.6 and engine light comes on.
Wiring and connectors all look fine. I put a different pcm in and no change. Tomorrow I will take the chip out and see of that makes any difference
 
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Old Dec 9, 2020 | 09:54 PM
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How is your fuel pressure? Here's a thread on a truck with similar symptoms. Never got the final word on this, but @Shake-N-Bake said he's seen this scenario cause by fuel starvation many times. The rig would run smooth for 20-30 seconds , then IPR drop to 4.6%, ICP up over 3Kpsi.

Is the fuel pressure still above 45psi when the IPR drops to 4.6%?

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...p-at-idle.html
 
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Old Dec 10, 2020 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BWST
How is your fuel pressure? Here's a thread on a truck with similar symptoms. Never got the final word on this, but @Shake-N-Bake said he's seen this scenario cause by fuel starvation many times. The rig would run smooth for 20-30 seconds , then IPR drop to 4.6%, ICP up over 3Kpsi.

Is the fuel pressure still above 45psi when the IPR drops to 4.6%?

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...p-at-idle.html



Thank you thank you thank you.
I will investigate this today.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2020 | 07:11 AM
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I have a fuel pressure gauge on my regulated return, it reads 60psi with koeo. And 60psi when truck is running bad.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2020 | 07:19 AM
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Can you read codes now that you've had it running with the SES light on again?
 
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Old Dec 10, 2020 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by FordTruckNoob
Can you read codes now that you've had it running with the SES light on again?

P1209 is the only one that comes up now

I have a new ipr
New ICP sensor
I put a known good ICP sensor in because I thought maybe the new sensor was bad.
What is making me pull my hair out is why once the engine oil gets good and hot icp and ipr goes back to normal and the truck runs perfect
 
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Old Dec 10, 2020 | 08:03 AM
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Per the table posted by BWST above, P1209 is reporting a stuck IPR. Given that you bought a new one, that means there is a blockage somewhere in the HP oil circuit. Is the IPR genuine Ford/Motorcraft?

It shouldn't make much difference in this area but what model year is your truck so I look up the correct version of the shop manual?

A quick search yielded this so far:

The procedures are attached if the above leads you to the DC pinpoint tests.

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Old Dec 10, 2020 | 09:20 AM
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Sorry about that - really had my hopes up for you on the fuel issue.

Agree with FTN that there appears to be a blockage in the HP oil circuit, at least when cold.

In the thread below, ICP just a bit lower than normal at idle, and @MADVAN talks about a screen in the pump (HPOP?). Is this something we can check?

He goes on to say "ICP is not high, so is ok" but on your rig, ICP is high.




https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...at-idle-2.html
 
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Old Dec 10, 2020 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 7.34x4
Mobil 15w40 extreme synthetic
it's around 35 out now
I've never heard of "Mobil 15w40 extreme synthetic", but at 35 degrees, the owner's manual suggests 10W-30 might work better over the winter than 15W-40.

If you like synthetic, then a 5W-40 synthetic would be a good choice for winter.

Is that what you meant to type, 5W-40?

There can be a huge difference in cold start performance between 15W-40 and 5W-40.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2020 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Y2KW57
I've never heard of "Mobil 15w40 extreme synthetic", but at 35 degrees, the owner's manual suggests 10W-30 might work better over the winter than 15W-40.

If you like synthetic, then a 5W-40 synthetic would be a good choice for winter.

Is that what you meant to type, 5W-40?

There can be a huge difference in cold start performance between 15W-40 and 5W-40.
Oh good catch.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2020 | 12:11 PM
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I changed the new oil out for some mobil 5w40 full synthetic. No more check engine light and truck runs great at start up and idle.
ICP pressure right where it should be. But ipr is still at 4.6

 
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Old Dec 10, 2020 | 12:32 PM
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I'd say your problem is solved. The PCM will command IPR DC to whatever it needs to be to get to desired ICP. Unless it is still throwing codes, be happy and enjoy your smooth running truck.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2020 | 12:32 PM
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Wait,.... thats 15W/40? Is that picture of what you replaced or what you put in that fixed it?
 
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Old Dec 10, 2020 | 12:38 PM
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Wait,.... thats 15W/40? Is that picture of what you replaced or what you put in that fixed it?

The picture is the oil that caused the problem
 
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Old Dec 10, 2020 | 12:39 PM
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Thank you to all that helped and gave input. I really appreciate and am very thankful for all of you.
 
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