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Old Dec 18, 2020 | 06:42 AM
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Have a look at "Vibration Solved" under 1987-1996 F150 & larger E Series Trucks".
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Old Dec 18, 2020 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by brokestroke
Increased driveshaft speed with 4.30 gears highlighting the vibration? Personally I have built multiple unbalanced driveshafts without any issues of vibration.

One thing that comes to mind since you re-geared it is the pinion crush sleeve isnt properly torqued/crushed. This can cause the yoke to not fully seat against the pinion when tight. Thus leaving 1/16-1/8" of spline that is not fully engaged in the yoke and flat against the pinion nut. This can cause a slight wobble in the yoke when rotating. Everything appears tight but since the splines have play it can wobble at speed. If that makes sense.
Makes sence, I will have to check it out. The guy who torqued it sets these up for a living, but crap happens at 3am😁
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Old Dec 18, 2020 | 07:20 AM
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Makes sence, I will have to check it out. The guy who torqued it sets these up for a living, but crap happens at 3am😁
Thanks for the tip
In fact, check pinion preload regularly. Even if the pinion nut doesn't back off, the preload can become too low as the pinion bearings wear.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2021 | 01:37 PM
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@ESwift ...what became of this?
 
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Old Apr 19, 2021 | 03:04 PM
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@ESwift ...what became of this?
Not a whole lot, havent driven truck much yet. I had gotten rid of that big external ring on back of driveshaft, and then shimmes the carrier bearing down 1/4" and that cleared up about %90 of vibration. I figure that if I have issues in the summer, I will just have a new shaft assembly built.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2021 | 04:40 PM
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The reason I ask is I'm working on a F350 dually that has a Driveline speed vibration starting at 35mph. Has new u-joints and carrier bearing...and was supposed to be balanced after that work.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2021 | 05:27 PM
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Is it a cclb? What height rear blocks does it have? I wonder if the driveshaft could benifit from adjusting angle by shimming carrier down like 1/8-1/4"
 
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Old Apr 19, 2021 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan V
The reason I ask is I'm working on a F350 dually that has a Driveline speed vibration starting at 35mph. Has new u-joints and carrier bearing...and was supposed to be balanced after that work.
I think the shop that did the work took a shorcut or three.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2021 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ESwift
Is it a cclb? What height rear blocks does it have? I wonder if the driveshaft could benifit from adjusting angle by shimming carrier down like 1/8-1/4"
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Old Apr 21, 2021 | 06:25 PM
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Met up with @FordTruckNoob on Wednesday to help diagnose a vibration. With his help and his Action camera I think we identified the culprit. It felt like a driveshaft issue, and certainly looked like it on the video. I have the entire driveshaft out to be reworked. I will know on Thursday if they found anything.

Leonard, thanks for your help, and if you're inclined to post the video...have at it.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2021 | 08:31 AM
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I'm fighting this right now too with mine. Normally I never take the truck up over 60 mph doing the local work as there is no interstate driving involved. 55-60 is about as fast as it gets and not even for that long. Just returned from a trip out west (too cold and windy still for that IMO but that another topic) and it's fine running 62-64 mph most of the time depending on temperature, but develops a definite driveline shudder at speeds exceeding 65.

I drive like a slowpoke anyway since the fuel bill is on my tab and it amazes me how fast these guys are running tractor trailers these days but it did become a bit of a concern under certain situations where I had to speed the truck up to pass somebody to get back in the slow lane. Normally I'm happy keeping it in a speed range where it runs smooth but obviously this became obnoxious at times on a long trip.

I've had the driveline off and the U-joints replaced with greaseable Spicer 5-1410-1X by a shop within the past year and a half and I don't think they did a very good job, because this wasn't a problem at all with the originals before they went bad. I could run the truck up to 70 or faster with no shudder or vibration. (Not that I did very often but I could is the point). It seems like it helps when get out the grease gun and top off the pressure with a half pull or two, but I have a rear joint that leaks pressure from a stripped out zerk fitting so I've got at least one that wont grease properly, and I also have one in the middle with a cap that wont purge at all, so my first suspicion is that I probably just need to replace all three of them (again) and see what happens. This time I'm going to go with the non-greasable versions (5-1410-X) of the same joint as I really don't care for greasing u-joints anyway and they make a mess. I also have a failed oil seal on the rear output on the transmission which I assume is related to the issue, but it's been seeping for a long time...well prior to the new u-joints but it has gotten worse and needs fixed also.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2021 | 09:37 AM
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When I rebuilt the driveline on the F250, I used the ungreasable Spicers. Recently the Tacoma had a vibration...driveshaft speed. A short trip had one of the u-joints warm to the touch, and the hanger bearing isolator was shot. Some more Spicer non-grease versions in that too. Smooth as creamy peanut butter now.

I didn't learn a smallish trick from the driveline company...after you get the circle clips installed....strike the yoke (that houses the u-joint cap) with a steel hammer. He claims that allows the pressure from pressing them in to equalize.

Anyway, in the short conversation with the tech...he noticed a few things. 1) wrong hanger bearing, 2) it had been shortened (non factory weld), 3) the rear most u-joint was "notchy" (not the cause though), 4) was an area that a weight "was" but no longer was there.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2021 | 08:28 AM
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Driveshaft done at the driveline shop. I have to get it today and throw it in...in the rain. According to them...."Severely out of balance." Cost? $105

@FordTruckNoob ...Hillbilly F1 pitcrew alright!
 
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Old Apr 26, 2021 | 08:35 AM
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Driveshaft done at the driveline shop. I have to get it today and throw it in...in the rain. According to them...."Severely out of balance." Cost? $105

@FordTruckNoob ...Hillbilly F1 pitcrew alright!
Which part(s)? Did the slip joint check out okay?
 
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