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Old Dec 4, 2020 | 01:13 PM
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Disappearing coolant

I've been slowing missing coolant I can't explain. It seems to have picked up lately. I lost what I think is about a quart in 1K miles. I don't have any external leaks I can detected. My oil level is the same. I have not vented coolant. I still have my EGR cooler. Can it be leaking? I thought this would cause overheating and venting if so. My ECT is always good. My ECT/EOT is ok but can creep up to 12-13 degrees on the freeway at 75mph. Any idea where is my coolant going?
 
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Old Dec 4, 2020 | 01:15 PM
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Could be out your exhaust if a head gasket is leaking....
 
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Old Dec 4, 2020 | 01:26 PM
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Oh Mikey........ Can you put pressure on the system and see how fast it leaks off? I would start looking on Top of the engine at cooler lines and see if it is puddling up there. My 7.3L had a fitting that leaked when Cold but would seal up when Hot. Don't panic...........yet
 
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Old Dec 4, 2020 | 06:33 PM
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Inspect, inspect! How old is your degas bottle? What is the shape of the “Y” connector under it? Is there any wetness on the firewall? Any coolant in the valley? I think people jump quickly to head gasket issues when there are so many other possibilities. Mine leaked quietly for a long while before I found it was a bunch of tiny cracks in the overflow bottle. I hope yours is as benign and not deeper.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2020 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxium4x4
Oh Mikey........ Can you put pressure on the system and see how fast it leaks off? I would start looking on Top of the engine at cooler lines and see if it is puddling up there. My 7.3L had a fitting that leaked when Cold but would seal up when Hot. Don't panic...........yet
Y'all are no fun. Can't we terrorize him just a little? Let's break out the runaway engine vids.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2020 | 09:38 PM
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Mine was leaking at the heater valve. Just ended up needing some real hose clamps, not those factory spring clamps. Was leaking down on top of the injector harness of course...
 
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Old Dec 6, 2020 | 06:08 PM
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That's the thing. I can't see a speck of coolant anywhere. None in the valley, nothing leaking when the engine is cold, hot running or not. It hasn't puked coolant either so that's why I am a bit puzzled.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2020 | 11:54 PM
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Are you having any abnormal amounts of white exhaust smoke when you first start her after sitting for some time, like over night? That would be a good sign of an EGR cooler failing. Which is common. Mine did the same thing. When the EGR cooler starts to leak, it is usually a gradual thing. You might dismiss the white smoke on your first start of the day on it being a cold morning and not give it much thought. But in a few weeks or months, your exhaust will be laying down a cloud of white smoke that would make a WW2 Navy cruiser proud. B.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2020 | 06:19 PM
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Yeah, my truck has done this for the last 140,000 miles. One morning the coolant level is here, the next morning it's there. I'm really worried it won't last another 140,000.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2020 | 01:52 PM
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Are you having any abnormal amounts of white exhaust smoke when you first start her after sitting for some time, like over night? That would be a good sign of an EGR cooler failing. Which is common. Mine did the same thing. When the EGR cooler starts to leak, it is usually a gradual thing. You might dismiss the white smoke on your first start of the day on it being a cold morning and not give it much thought. But in a few weeks or months, your exhaust will be laying down a cloud of white smoke that would make a WW2 Navy cruiser proud. B.
That's what I am thinking. I noticed my truck has seemed a bit more white cloud-ish when cold. I guess I can pull the EGR value and see if there is signs of steam cleaning. I guess it is time to start researching shops to do the full head studs, oil cooler, STC, etc. if I got to replace the EGR cooler. I don't have the garage space to do the job this time of year so I guess I will have to bite the bullet and outsource it.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2020 | 01:57 PM
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Don't really see a reason to replace all that just because the EGR cooler is bad, unless the head gaskets have failed. Maybe replace the oil cooler too, and coolant, but if your gaskets are good, the rest is pretty basic maintenance on these engines.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2020 | 08:52 PM
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Well, it is prolly the EGR cooler, but can't say 100%. You could have a shop do a compression and leak down test on the health of the engine before you pull the top end. Could save you a bunch of dough. How many miles on your rig? B,
 
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Old Dec 9, 2020 | 08:22 AM
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Don't really see a reason to replace all that just because the EGR cooler is bad, unless the head gaskets have failed. Maybe replace the oil cooler too, and coolant, but if your gaskets are good, the rest is pretty basic maintenance on these engines.
Doing the EGR cooler and oil cooler this time of year would require some nice days or figure out how to keep my garage heated with 1/3 of my truck hanging out of it. If I decide to have a shop do the EGR and oil cooler I might was well go the extra step and do head gaskets and studs. I wouldn't be comfortable doing head gaskets and studs myself anyway.
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Well, it is prolly the EGR cooler, but can't say 100%. You could have a shop do a compression and leak down test on the health of the engine before you pull the top end. Could save you a bunch of dough. How many miles on your rig? B,
I'm at 107,000 miles currently. I'm not worried about the bottom end but I guess it can't hurt to have them check before doing any major work if I move forward. I plan on pulling the EGR value Friday if I get the seals in time and checking it. I cleaned it about 16K miles ago so if it's still spotless or gooey then I would think the EGR cooler is leaking.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2020 | 01:15 PM
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I pulled the EGR value. Look slightly damp. Not the mess I was expecting but it still appears to have a slight dampness.




 
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Old Dec 10, 2020 | 01:33 PM
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I'll see if I can find some time to do a bubble test as well. Maybe that will give me an idea what's going on.
 
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