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Old Dec 2, 2020 | 08:39 PM
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The video says to make it easier to change your own oil. Looks pretty slick to me. You could swap them out in the parking lot of Autozone. Better yet I bet they would do it for you like they do batteries. It would save me about a half a roll of paper towels each change. Which right now are a premium. I wouldn’t want to lift one up in a SD with 13 quarts of oil in it though.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2020 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by pig9r
The video says to make it easier to change your own oil. Looks pretty slick to me. You could swap them out in the parking lot of Autozone. Better yet I bet they would do it for you like they do batteries. It would save me about a half a roll of paper towels each change. Which right now are a premium. I wouldn’t want to lift one up in a SD with 13 quarts of oil in it though.
Yes, the video is just the technology, but the inventor was on 60min and they had an EPA rep talk about exactly what I stated. There is already proposals to prevent you from working on your vehicles and Tesla has been one of the primary pursuers of it. Just like the Apple model of the consumers to dumb to assemble or work on our hardware... it’s a disease
 
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Old Dec 2, 2020 | 09:12 PM
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Bummed. I was upset when they did away with carbs and distributors (yes, I know I’m dating myself) and computer technology took over auto operations so much that I couldn’t do any where near as much as I used to. I don’t have a computer science degree.
Now oil changes and thanks to my PSD, fuel filter changes and a couple other simple things are about it.
I’m pretty confident in the longevity of the engine and drive train but the computer controlled stuff that only “licensed dealers” can do, I’m afraid, is going to be a issue.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2020 | 09:32 PM
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Just like the Apple model of the consumers to dumb to assemble or work on our hardware... it’s a disease
I agree with this. I hate Apple hardware.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2020 | 06:26 AM
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I don’t make the rules, but they’re working on technology that you won’t be able to change your own oil either. Here is an example........If anyone’s paying attention they have and will continue to push that working on your own car is a crime. Don’t believe me, that’s fine but the EPA and auto manufactures are in bed together and always have been...
Don't panic. FWIW - For 35 career years, I was a member of SEMA, AWDA, SAE, and CFS, and was actively involved in the industries legislative efforts on behalf of the aftermarket. Automakers have proposed and lobbied for legislative exclusivity for their "proprietary" technology in earnest since 1973, when the first electronic ignition systems were introduced industry wide (replacing points and condensers) The goal of automakers (and commercial vehicle manufacturers) has been "closed hood" "exclusive access" legislation to protect their technology. Aftermarket industry coalitions have been very successful in limiting the manufactures reach, but, technology is redefining what is "proprietary". Not likely accessories will ever come under that umbrella, but having been to Washington and met with legislators, trust me, they don't see an "automotive enthusiast" the same way we do. Were it not for the tens of $ billions spent over the past 4 decades by consumers, and millions spent lobbying on behalf of those consumers, the aftermarket landscape might not look the way it does today, (which is no where near as "free wheeling" as it was 30 to 40 years ago). The aftermarket is alive and well. It is, and will, continue to meet the challenges introduced by the EPA and automakers.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2020 | 07:02 AM
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I know right? Once they stopped attaching horses to the front things just went downhill fast.
Exactly.
Those who feel the need to hold on to the last decade should just keep their vehicles.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2020 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by h20camper
I agree with this. I hate Apple hardware.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
What "h20camper" said especially, the part about Apple h/w.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2020 | 11:35 AM
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I agree with this. I hate Apple hardware.
So you prefer Google hardware that spies on you?
 
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Old Dec 3, 2020 | 11:58 AM
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And Apple doesn't?? I'm more concerned about my Alexa device eves-dropping on me to be honest.

Android for me.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2020 | 01:26 PM
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And Apple doesn't?? I'm more concerned about my Alexa device eves-dropping on me to be honest.

Android for me.
Yep, the other day I said "I feel better today" to my wife. GOOGLE said, "I'm glad to hear that you are feeling better" . . . . CREEPY
 
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Old Dec 3, 2020 | 02:23 PM
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Is your wife's name Alexa by chance???
 
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Old Dec 3, 2020 | 02:42 PM
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2007 was hte last year you could order a manual transmission in an SD. I wish I had ordered my 2005 but couldn.t wait, so bought off hte lot. My 2017 still has a transmission dipstick and drain plug, and a CD player thats never been used except to check a CD goes in and comes out. In 2032 when the boss says I can get a new truck, Ill probably just get a spaceship.
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Old Dec 3, 2020 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by George C
Exactly.
Those who feel the need to hold on to the last decade should just keep their vehicles.
Enjoy your push button 4x4 never working and having to go to the dealer every November to get it fixed.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2020 | 04:38 PM
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Enjoy your push button 4x4 never working and having to go to the dealer every November to get it fixed.
I've had ESOF in Ford trucks for over 20 years and it has always worked. I'm sure I'm not alone.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2020 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by muhford
Enjoy your push button 4x4 never working and having to go to the dealer every November to get it fixed.
Interesting as I knew that first Gen tech had issues, but I just spoke to one of the largest axle repair and aftermarket locker installers in the area and I asked about the reliability of the E-lockers and auto locking hubs. Their response is the Eaton E-lockers have been highly reliable and they rarely see anyone with issues and same goes for the auto locking hubs. Will be putting a Truetrac in the front soon as I get the truck so curious where your comment is coming from?
 
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